More cuts at the Plain Dealer

[Junkie]

Meh. I've known Tim for 30 plus years. He really is a good guy. I'm sure he has no choice. I'm sure he was told write this or lose your job. He's close to retirement. I don't know how you choose in that situation.

This is accurate. Tim is a very good guy. I hate seeing him get beat up on here and I know that none of this was easy for him. I'm guessing his choices every stop along the way of this unfortunate path were always the lesser of the evils. But the profession is going where it's going, and Tim is trying to keep himself and his family afloat just like many of us are.

 

[studthug12]

The Plain Dealer has covered — and survived — the Great Depression, the Great Recession, civil and world wars, the Spanish Flu of 1918, and now the COVID-19 pandemic.

Holy ship the pandemic is over and it took until the 16th graph to mention it? Talk about burying the lede!

Before anyone starts pounding nails in coffins, as some of my more sensationalist brethren and harsh critics are wont to do, take a breath. This is not the end of The Plain Dealer. Far from it.

NARRATOR: It was the end of The Plain Dealer.

Keith Morrison, Dateline voice* IN FACT, it was the end for the Plain Dealer...oh yes, as the sun splashed on the windows, the shutters closed and a bleak darkness rolled in. One that would rock Cleveland TO IT'S CORE.

 

[Dan Omlor]

What happened to the salaries of those Plain Dealer reporters who moved over to Cleveland.com? Did they stay the same or decline significantly? (I know they pay new hires much less, but what about experienced crossovers?) Are they paid a salary at all or just a per piece or per word stipend? Is it possible to earn a professional salary working at Cleveland.com?

 

[cake in the rain]

What happened to the salaries of those Plain Dealer reporters who moved over to Cleveland.com? Did they stay the same or decline significantly? (I know they pay new hires much less, but what about experienced crossovers?) Are they paid a salary at all or just a per piece or per word stipend? Is it possible to earn a professional salary working at Cleveland.com?

Given that several prominent Plain Dealer reporters resigned from the union three years ago in order to join Cleveland.com, I'd imagine that pay is very competitive.

 

[matt_garth]

 

[SixToe]

What a forking joke.

Not sure I'd ever call Cleveland a destination but the P-D once was a damned fine newspaper with great folks. Now it's just another shell in the Advance jar of baubles.

 

[wicked]

Anyone remember the times Advance told us, "this Internet thing, we got it"? They've just gutted stories nameplates left and right.

 

[Fredrick]

LOL. Deadlines are so early they can't lead with the rioting. Because the story won't be timely at all and could be very inaccurate by the time the dead fishwrap hits the porches. So they put it on the front page and use the excuse that the timely story is on the internet site.

 

[LanceyHoward]

Given that several prominent Plain Dealer reporters resigned from the union three years ago in order to join Cleveland.com, I'd imagine that pay is very competitive.

But given that the union is now broken we will see how long that lasts at Cleveland.com. Advance worked that hard to crush the union. Such organizational characteristics don't disappear. Instead they reemerge.

 

[Mngwa]

The Plain Dealer is dead. Anyone who thinks otherwise, well, you're wrong.

 

[LanceyHoward]

The Plain Dealer is dead. Anyone who thinks otherwise, well, you're wrong.

I wonder what the New House family is going to do with Their chain. They don't appear to want to buy anything. Akron was sold to Gatehouse for 16 million a couple years back. If Advanced on the chance to buty Akron and consolidate then it is hard to imagine them investing in any regional clusters or other papers.

But other than New Orleans they have not sold. But is a business that seems to be increasingly consolidate or die I think at some point Advanced is going to have to either expand or get out.

 

[Readallover]

Thanks, ex-Plain Dealer employees, for allowing Advance to use the savings to fund this program
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