Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

[Tom Petty]

And I don't know why people keep pointing out how long this thread is. Really, there has been a lot of good discussion over an issue that generally has the public on one side and journalists on the other.
I think it has been a discussion worth having.

because fanboys hate it when you point out stupidity when their favorite team is involved.

 

[tarheelgamecock]

Not that this adds anything to the conversation, but I thought this commercial from a Toyota dealer in Norman was kind of amusing.

 

[SixToe]

That's pretty good. Someone at Fowler Toyota should get a little bump.

Tacomas, by the way, are pussies. Tundras are real trucks.

 

[Big_Space]

Does it matter at all that Carlson got her cute little antidote about the mother feeding Reid chicken wrong? and from a third party?

Said it before, I'll say it again. The column was atrocious, it was character-ashashination of a college player based on rumor and rumblings, backed up with facts heard on the sly and whispers. Amateur hack job you can read on any rivals.com or scout.com message board.

Nice job some of you have done in holding up this style of "journalism". Go ahead and think your readers want that.

 

[wannabeu]

Does it matter at all that Carlson got her cute little antidote about the mother feeding Reid chicken wrong? and from a third party?

Said it before, I'll say it again. The column was atrocious, it was character-ashashination of a college player based on rumor and rumblings, backed up with facts heard on the sly and whispers. Amateur hack job you can read on any rivals.com or scout.com message board.

Nice job some of you have done in holding up this style of "journalism". Go ahead and think your readers want that.

Bingo!

 

[wickedwritah]

Does it matter at all that Carlson got her cute little antidote about the mother feeding Reid chicken wrong? and from a third party?

Said it before, I'll say it again. The column was atrocious, it was character-ashashination of a college player based on rumor and rumblings, backed up with facts heard on the sly and whispers. Amateur hack job you can read on any rivals.com or scout.com message board.

Nice job some of you have done in holding up this style of "journalism". Go ahead and think your readers want that.

Bingo!

Please, a bunch of us, including yours truly, have ripped the column left and right.

Do you folks not get that?

 

[Billy Pritchard]

Seriously, this debate is still going on? I'm getting tired of seeing it back at the top. Ooops, now I just put it back there!

 

[wickedwritah]

This is like the boots thread, lots of crap spewed by lots of us.

 

[JayFarrar]

Anecdote and Big 12 beat writers have confirmed that Gundy was talking out his ash. The QB was looking to transfer, even though in the rant Gundy said he wasn't.
Nobody is a winner here, but I'll still take Jenni.

 

[ADifferentOkie]

Does it matter at all that Carlson got her cute little antidote about the mother feeding Reid chicken wrong? and from a third party?

For the millionth time, she didn't get the story wrong. She didn't see it, but a beat writer did.
Others saw it as well.

 

[ADifferentOkie]

And those "rumors and rumblings" are from the coaches, probably including Gundy himself.

 

[Ike Broflovski]

And those "rumors and rumblings" are from the coaches, probably including Gundy himself.

The key word in that sentence is "probably."

After 42 pages, you just don't get this, do you? The consensus here isn't necessarily that she had it wrong; it's that her reporting was shabby -- embarrashingly inept.

If I'm writing something in which I essentially call a college quarterback a pussy, I'd want to talk to everybody I could for the record, including the player and his mother (who, as Jerome Solomon found out in the Houston Chronicle column, wasn't so hard to find). And what I couldn't attribute, I'd label as coming from sources, more than one. "Rumors and rumblings" might be OK for a chat room, but it isn't for almost every journalist I know.

Carlson and her yahoo editor are standing by their story (a really dumb idea), but that's not the point. She's been vilified for trashing a player by the fans, but as a journalist, I can't say she went about it the right way. And for the millionth time, I wouldn't use an anecdote that I got second-hand without first at least asking the people involved about it.