UVA and the alleged frat rape - Rolling Stone backpedals

[MisterCreosote]

How about "nothing." People who decide such things don't allocate money to "hoaxes."

 

[PW2]

How about "nothing." People who decide such things don't allocate money to "hoaxes."

I don't think that they think there are zero campus rapes.

 

[cranberry]

Also, as has been documented, addressing it as a 1-in-5 problem seems to be ruining the lives of a number of innocent men, like the guy from the University of Michigan in the Slate piece.

If addressing it as a 1-in-5 problem yields a higher ratio of potential victims saved to young men's "lives ruined," I'm ok with it.

 

[MisterCreosote]

I don't think that they think there are zero campus rapes.

I'll rephrase: I don't want the people tripping over their own dicks to refute rape statistics as sensationalized political mumbo jumbo to be in charge of allocating resources to combating sexual assault, on campus or elsewhere.

 

[PW2]

If addressing it as a 1-in-5 problem yields a higher ratio of potential victims saved to young men's "lives ruined," I'm ok with it.

What if it yields more murder and robbery victims?

 

[PW2]

I'll rephrase: I don't want the people tripping over their own dicks to refute rape statistics as sensationalized political mumbo jumbo to be in charge of allocating resources to combating sexual assault, on campus or elsewhere.

Agreed.

 

[LongTimeListener]

If addressing it as a 1-in-5 problem yields a higher ratio of potential victims saved to young men's "lives ruined," I'm ok with it.

What?

You really think publicly flogging and expelling these guys, who are innocent, helps the cause?

 

[PW2]

I used to be bitter that I had to go to college when we still worried irrationally about AIDS.

But I think that was preferable to now.

 

[cranberry]

What?

You really think publicly flogging and expelling these guys, who are innocent, helps the cause?

No, I said that erring on the side of overstating the problem is the smarter course of response. Disciplinary processes will evolve and become better as we increase focus on the problem.

If not, I'm sure outraged men will muster the courage to stand up for themselves.

 

[PW2]

No, I said that erring on the side of overstating the problem is the smarter course of response.

Maybe if we overstate by some slim margin.

But killing an ant with a sledge hammer? No. There's no good reason to err that far when there's plenty of information available gauging the problem with some accuracy.

 

[MisterCreosote]

What?

You really think publicly flogging and expelling these guys, who are innocent, helps the cause?

What we DO know for sure is there is not an epidemic of innocent men being falsely accused of rape. So, there's that.

 

[PW2]

What we DO know for sure is there is not an epidemic of innocent men being falsely accused of rape. So, there's that.

Isn't one too many?