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2023 World Series TV Rating

As Olbermann has noted, the reason it's 'concerning' is the country is 30% bigger now than it was on Oct. 27, 1986 - when the MNF game pulled an 8.8 rating compared to Game 7's 38.9 rating.

Baseball never needed an "October Madness" - this was always supposed to be about gathering the best teams and settling it there and then. That's what the 162-game schedule is supposed to be for, sorting out wheat from chaff.
 
Also, the playoffs are too damn long.

Why does baseball get slagged for this, but the NBA (and NHL), which stretches out single series over two weeks, and whose playoffs take literally two months-plus to complete, and which often has 9 or 10 p.m. tipoffs, gets largely spared?

Never made any sense to me. Baseball is a longer game, but NBA playoff games can really drag out too with reviews, timeouts, etc.

I will admit my baseball playoff interest wanes when my own team is out, but that's a different phenomenon at work. That's a putting all my eggs in one basket emotional thing and I'm the same way with the NBA and NFL.

When my team doesn't make the playoffs, I'm more inclined to follow generally.
 
Makes no difference to a baseball fan, I agree. But Fox can't be happy today. The figures were about as bad as they could be and so were most of the games.
 
The question isn't so much how the ratings compare to football, but how do they compare to the Masked Singer, the screaming chef, the other singing shows, the Sunday animation or whatever else Fox would have been airing at the time?

At least I knew where to find the World Series games. In the earlier rounds I had to go through the mental rolodex of Fox, FS1, TBS (or was it TNT?) and ESPN to try and find the games.
 
It's always been bullshirt to compare the ratings of football versus baseball.

One is a weekly sport that doesn't really require much of an investment to follow, which means games outside of usual local interest will do *way* better than the MLB out-of-market equivalent. Casual sports fans flock to football because it's easy.

One is a daily sport that does require time investment to follow correctly. Following baseball is hard, especially if you didn't grow up with it in a MLB market.

The game is very difficult to package in a national sense, try though multiple networks have throughout my life. ESPN tried/tries to do the Turner NBA model of featuring only the most popular teams, but baseball doesn't work the same way. You can't guarantee a Giannis vs. LeBron battle even with two popular teams. You might get No. 5 starter vs. No. 5 starter. (And baseball has hurt itself by devaluing the star value of starters, but that's a different topic for a different thread.)

Baseball falls into the same category as basketball, hockey and MLS. It is intensely followed at a local level, but can be difficult to impenetrable to follow at a national one.

I'd love to know what the combined day-to-day over the course of a week local ratings of baseball would do against football, but even that's not a fair equivalent. The only way it would be if is football was broadcast locally. That's the other massive advantage football has. It has never had to support a local media rights model as other sports do.

Football probably is more popular, but it is, and always has been, an apples-to-oranges comparison from a ratings point of view.

And, of course, ratings themselves take on far, far lesser importance with the fragmented media market. I know it matters in an ad revenue/TV rights sense, but as far as popularity is concerned? This ain't the 80s, where you looked at USA Today's weekly ratings breakdown of three networks that had near-exclusivity. The shirt I watch, some of it sports, some of it not, wouldn't even register in the ratings.

Agree with pretty much all of this. Another thing is that it's hard to come up with a better sport for gambling than football.
 
Agree with pretty much all of this. Another thing is that it's hard to come up with a better sport for gambling than football.

No doubt. Baseball is a prop bet paradise, if you so choose it to be so, but who in the heck would want to bet on outcomes for such a random-ass sport? (Besides degenerates.)

I can't imagine even wanting to try to pull off a baseball parlay in the same way I might for football or basketball.
 
The question isn't so much how the ratings compare to football, but how do they compare to the Masked Singer, the screaming chef, the other singing shows, the Sunday animation or whatever else Fox would have been airing at the time?

At least I knew where to find the World Series games. In the earlier rounds I had to go through the mental rolodex of Fox, FS1, TBS (or was it TNT?) and ESPN to try and find the games.

The World Series would have finished about 14th in the 2022-2023 season if it were classified as a series.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/mo...-2023-season-yellowstone-football-1235623612/
 
Quite frankly I'm stunned that Survivor is still pulling top-20 numbers in this day and age.
That is a reflection of how much network television audiences for dramas have declined. Dramas are moving to streaming. For example, CBS/Paramount started Yellowstone on streaming and now shows reruns on CBS. Networks are scrambling for cheap programming. Survivor is cheap to produce and had a loyal audience.

That is why CBS/Paramount was just put up for sale.
 
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In additional to the macro issues with the sport, this series really lacked stars. If you asked casual baseball fans to name players outside their home market, they would likely start with Shohei Ohtani and go on to maybe Aaron Judge or Mike Trout or Jose Altuve or Ronald Acuna....and few would ever get to Corey Seager or Marcus Semien or Corbin Carroll. The player with the highest recognizability was probably Max Scherzer, and he only put up a few innings before being hurt.
 

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