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All-purpose, running Tim Tebow sucks/is a deity thread!

LongTimeListener said:
Clerk Typist said:
How much were the ratings due to Tebow and how much were they due to the time slot (Sunday prime time) and the score? I'd like to see year-by-year comparisons for the late Sunday wild card game before saying it was thanks to him.

They have had a late Sunday wild-card game ever since they've had the wild card, so it at the very least beat the last 23 of those.

Exactly. We're talking about 24 years.

Lieslntx said:
It was due to TEBOW! And they put him in that time slot for a reason. Because they knew the ratings were going to be higher ....

I'm guessing the League & their TV partners did choose the scheduling with Tebow (and the Steelers) & the ratings in mind. And, they scored big.
 
BYH said:
AGAIN: It's how I feel about ANYONE who shoves religion down my throat. You can look it up, as the saying goes. I have been utterly consistent with this, and open about it. Proving how statistically unlikely it is Tebow will keep this pace up and getting his rabid fans into a frothy rage is just a bonus.

The problem with Tebow is he IS more in our face about it than just about anyone, which is compounded by the natural tendency of NFL rightsholders to publicize him well beyond the point of oversaturation. I am also annoyed by the hypocrisy of the fans who would scream bloody murder if he was, say, not standing for the pledge of allegiance b/c of religious beliefs. How'd that work out for Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

I don't like religion. Period. It's a crock of shirt and I am offended when anyone who chooses to believe in this fairy tale refuses to keep it to him/herself. That's how I feel, and I am more than happy to continue this discussion with anyone who wants to do so. I have yet to sway anyone to my side of the debate, but the next person who thinks I'm a bigot after the discussion will be the first.

Well said.
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
BYH said:
AGAIN: It's how I feel about ANYONE who shoves religion down my throat. You can look it up, as the saying goes. I have been utterly consistent with this, and open about it. Proving how statistically unlikely it is Tebow will keep this pace up and getting his rabid fans into a frothy rage is just a bonus.

The problem with Tebow is he IS more in our face about it than just about anyone, which is compounded by the natural tendency of NFL rightsholders to publicize him well beyond the point of oversaturation. I am also annoyed by the hypocrisy of the fans who would scream bloody murder if he was, say, not standing for the pledge of allegiance b/c of religious beliefs. How'd that work out for Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

I don't like religion. Period. It's a crock of shirt and I am offended when anyone who chooses to believe in this fairy tale refuses to keep it to him/herself. That's how I feel, and I am more than happy to continue this discussion with anyone who wants to do so. I have yet to sway anyone to my side of the debate, but the next person who thinks I'm a bigot after the discussion will be the first.

Well said.

Yes. He very clearly enunciated anti-religious bigotry.
 
Clerk Typist said:
How much were the ratings due to Tebow and how much were they due to the time slot (Sunday prime time) and the score? I'd like to see year-by-year comparisons for the late Sunday wild card game before saying it was thanks to him.

It was the only slot the game really fit into.
 
YankeeFan said:
Bodie_Broadus said:
BYH said:
AGAIN: It's how I feel about ANYONE who shoves religion down my throat. You can look it up, as the saying goes. I have been utterly consistent with this, and open about it. Proving how statistically unlikely it is Tebow will keep this pace up and getting his rabid fans into a frothy rage is just a bonus.

The problem with Tebow is he IS more in our face about it than just about anyone, which is compounded by the natural tendency of NFL rightsholders to publicize him well beyond the point of oversaturation. I am also annoyed by the hypocrisy of the fans who would scream bloody murder if he was, say, not standing for the pledge of allegiance b/c of religious beliefs. How'd that work out for Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

I don't like religion. Period. It's a crock of shirt and I am offended when anyone who chooses to believe in this fairy tale refuses to keep it to him/herself. That's how I feel, and I am more than happy to continue this discussion with anyone who wants to do so. I have yet to sway anyone to my side of the debate, but the next person who thinks I'm a bigot after the discussion will be the first.

Well said.

Yes. He very clearly enunciated anti-religious bigotry.

I had this debate with some co-workers the other day. If Tebow was any other religion doing what he did people would hate him. If Abdul-Rauf kneeled and faced Mecca every time he hit a three-pointer how would he have been received?
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
I had this debate with some co-workers the other day. If Tebow was any other religion doing what he did people would hate him. If Abdul-Rauf kneeled and faced Mecca every time he hit a three-pointer how would he have been received?

Would probably effect his ability to get back on defense. I assume fans would be pissed if it led to uncontested points at the other end.
 
YankeeFan said:
Bodie_Broadus said:
I had this debate with some co-workers the other day. If Tebow was any other religion doing what he did people would hate him. If Abdul-Rauf kneeled and faced Mecca every time he hit a three-pointer how would he have been received?

Would probably effect his ability to get back on defense. I assume fans would be pissed if it led to uncontested points at the other end.

Sarcasm aside, I am curious how you would feel if he did that at the end of a game? What if he, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Kareem all prayed together?
 
YankeeFan said:
Bodie_Broadus said:
BYH said:
AGAIN: It's how I feel about ANYONE who shoves religion down my throat. You can look it up, as the saying goes. I have been utterly consistent with this, and open about it. Proving how statistically unlikely it is Tebow will keep this pace up and getting his rabid fans into a frothy rage is just a bonus.

The problem with Tebow is he IS more in our face about it than just about anyone, which is compounded by the natural tendency of NFL rightsholders to publicize him well beyond the point of oversaturation. I am also annoyed by the hypocrisy of the fans who would scream bloody murder if he was, say, not standing for the pledge of allegiance b/c of religious beliefs. How'd that work out for Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

I don't like religion. Period. It's a crock of shirt and I am offended when anyone who chooses to believe in this fairy tale refuses to keep it to him/herself. That's how I feel, and I am more than happy to continue this discussion with anyone who wants to do so. I have yet to sway anyone to my side of the debate, but the next person who thinks I'm a bigot after the discussion will be the first.

Well said.

Yes. He very clearly enunciated anti-religious bigotry.

The "he must be a bigot if he doesn't agree with me" defense. Thought you were better than that. Oh well.

And the flippancy with which you responded to the Abdul-Rauf hypothetical says it all.
 
Who the fork cares, Double B? Does it bother you when NFL players gather together after a game and pray at midfield?
 
BYH said:
YankeeFan said:
Bodie_Broadus said:
BYH said:
AGAIN: It's how I feel about ANYONE who shoves religion down my throat. You can look it up, as the saying goes. I have been utterly consistent with this, and open about it. Proving how statistically unlikely it is Tebow will keep this pace up and getting his rabid fans into a frothy rage is just a bonus.

The problem with Tebow is he IS more in our face about it than just about anyone, which is compounded by the natural tendency of NFL rightsholders to publicize him well beyond the point of oversaturation. I am also annoyed by the hypocrisy of the fans who would scream bloody murder if he was, say, not standing for the pledge of allegiance b/c of religious beliefs. How'd that work out for Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

I don't like religion. Period. It's a crock of shirt and I am offended when anyone who chooses to believe in this fairy tale refuses to keep it to him/herself. That's how I feel, and I am more than happy to continue this discussion with anyone who wants to do so. I have yet to sway anyone to my side of the debate, but the next person who thinks I'm a bigot after the discussion will be the first.

Well said.

Yes. He very clearly enunciated anti-religious bigotry.

The "he must be a bigot if he doesn't agree with me" defense. Thought you were better than that. Oh well.

And the flippancy with which you responded to the Abdul-Rauf hypothetical says it all.

You're better than that.
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
YankeeFan said:
Bodie_Broadus said:
I had this debate with some co-workers the other day. If Tebow was any other religion doing what he did people would hate him. If Abdul-Rauf kneeled and faced Mecca every time he hit a three-pointer how would he have been received?

Would probably effect his ability to get back on defense. I assume fans would be pissed if it led to uncontested points at the other end.

Sarcasm aside, I am curious how you would feel if he did that at the end of a game? What if he, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Kareem all prayed together?

Did you follow Hakeem's career? How many times did you read about his fasting during Ramadan?

I lived in Houston. Hakeem was very active in the Muslim community there. Houston is one of the most religious and conservative cities in the country.

Hakeem was very popular and did not suffer any discrimination that I'm aware of.
 

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