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Design thread

Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

That's an excellent point, X. I suggest we make copies of it and paste them all over DP.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

Songbird said:
The thing about the Arms Race package — and I use this argument with pretty much any out-of-the-box design — is that if you asked 100 readers of that sports section, "Hey, what do you think of this front-page package story about pitchers?" AT LEAST 95 of them would say, "That's pretty cool. It's neat how you did that with the photos and the text." (and if they didn't say that, it'd be something close to it).

See, what we forget about our readers is that they'll read whatever we give them, however it looks, diagonal text across the page or enormous photos with stat boxes and pull quotes and did-you-know factoids and all the other bells and whistles known to man. The only ones who act overly critical of design are us, the journos.

It's funny how we cut each other down to size. The Arms Race package is different. As a newspaper reader, it caught my eye, and I know I would've read at least the entire front-page part of the article.

A self-fulfilling prophecy from beginning to end and a textbook example of how designers have deluded themselves.

Why are they cool? Well, readers say so. What readers? Well, the readers we haven't gotten around to talking to yet, but we KNOW they'll respond this way.

Completely asinine.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

shotglass said:
That's DP.

Maybe you guys should concern yourselves more with finding these imaginary 95 percent of readers who actually give a shirt about what you claim they are obsessed with.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

Perhaps, but you're always good for some "stop, point and laugh" too.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

shotglass said:
Perhaps, but you're always good for some "stop, point and laugh" too.

0 out of 95 produced. Let me know when you find a few, helmethead.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

D'yerPacker said:
shotglass said:
That's DP.

Maybe you guys should concern yourselves more with finding these imaginary 95 percent of readers who actually give a shirt about what you claim they are obsessed with.

Dude, I talk to people all the forking time, always have. I ask people what they like. I ask people what they want, the things they like to see in the paper.

Why are you so bent on hating every little thing? If I may ask, what exactly is your role at your paper?

And if you design pages, how about you post a few of them for us to critique?
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

The thing is, I think he works at a place he hates and isn't allowed to be creative, so he hates on everyone who does get to have fun with design.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

Songbird said:
D'yerPacker said:
shotglass said:
That's DP.

Maybe you guys should concern yourselves more with finding these imaginary 95 percent of readers who actually give a shirt about what you claim they are obsessed with.

Dude, I talk to people all the forking time, always have. I ask people what they like. I ask people what they want, the things they like to see in the paper.

Why are you so bent on hating every little thing? If I may ask, what exactly is your role at your paper?

And if you design pages, how about you post a few of them for us to critique?

How about if you produce some of these people you say you talk to? Your post makes it sound like it purely hypothetical, which it probably is since it's the usual designer bullshirt that idiots are allowed to spout because editors are too gutless to put a stop to it.

You produce some REAL readers, not morons like Bonita Burton and her ilk, and then I'll stand corrected.

0 produced, 95 to go -- in every market, by the way. I won't hold my breath.
 
Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

Don't skirt the issue, pal: Post some of your pages.
 
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