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Re: Design thread *Updated 3/25*

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JRoyal said:I still wish DP would find one page, ONE PAGE, that he actually likes and post it. He seems to know so much about page designers. My guess is he was angling for a job that a design guy got over him, and now he wanders journalism boards posting rants about how deluded designers are.
And DP, it's easy to say, hey, I deny that this is real, so you can't use it. Studies have been done, my friend, that show that design does matter to readers. Newspapers have paid for them. Schools have paid for them. Poynter and other groups have paid for them. They brought in real people and asked them real questions. Did nifty eye-track stuff. It's easy for you to say, well, that goes against what I believe so I refuse to agree with it. But it's easy for all of us to say you're a blowhard who talks a lot of talk, but when given a simple challenge to produce apage he likes, backs down like a coward.
robschneider said:Since I joined in to this thread, at least half of the pages involve your guys trying to speak rationally with DyePack. It's not going to happen. It's never going to happen.
And he's not going away either.
But please just treat him like he's the 95-year old Uncle sitting in the corner on Christmas Day. He's got incredible amounts of opinions that all basically say the same thing. And you should have a converation with him to be polite, but when you get him going on something, know that you are never going to change his mind. You might have to change his Depends, though.
The sad thing is that the Deuce Pack actually has some valid opinions about newspaper designs that are prevelant in our newsrooms. But he never really talks about them. He just gives the same circle of hatred over and over again.
The great thing about this thread is that you can actually talk about design opinions and issues in a relatively burn-free atmosphere. Not listening to DyePack give the same opinion for the 1,178th time. Same one-liners too.
I really appreciate the exchanges on here, and I think we'd all be a lot happier if we pretended DP wasn't here. He can still tell the same old jokes over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. We just don't have to listen.