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Devin Hester: Holding out and highly quotable

Trouser_Buddah said:
JakeandElwood said:
Bob Cook said:
Dickens Cider said:
Bob Cook said:
Double Down said:
The problem with the Bears is they only want to cough up money for shirtty offensive players.

Not good, young ones that can actually have an impact on the game. If you're afraid to pay Hester a bunch of money because he doesn't play enough, play him more. heck, put him at fricken runningback. Or tell him, on every first down, to run a deep corner and throw the ball to the deep sidelines. Every first down. (Got a better plan? Show me.) He's too fast to cover one-on-one. He could be a big-time weapon, but the Bears previously preferred to give Cedric Benson the ball so he could fall forward for a 2-yard-gain before fumbling or slamming into the back of his offensive line.

This is great, but I must point out that Curtis Benson never, ever fell forward.

Curtis Benson? I know this was accidental, but it works.

Curtis Enis, Cedric Benson... after a while, they all look like the same guy. That's a warning to you, Cedric Forte. :)

Yeah, hopefully nobody will be posting about Kevin Salaam at the end of the year.

Cade McGrossman should be the starting quarterback...

Do you really think he can beat out Kyle Matthews?
 
What's the average life span for a complete stud returner? Seriously. How many good years do these guys have in them? Obviously Hester can change the face of a game, but how much longer will he be able to do that?

I have no answers, only questions.
 
Double Down said:
The problem with the Bears is they only want to cough up money for shirtty offensive players.

Not good, young ones that can actually have an impact on the game. If you're afraid to pay Hester a bunch of money because he doesn't play enough, play him more. heck, put him at fricken runningback. Or tell him, on every first down, to run a deep corner and throw the ball to the deep sidelines. Every first down. (Got a better plan? Show me.) He's too fast to cover one-on-one. He could be a big-time weapon, but the Bears previously preferred to give Cedric Benson the ball so he could fall forward for a 2-yard-gain before fumbling or slamming into the back of his offensive line.

The problem, though, is the Bears have to play him regularly on offense before they figure out if he's worth a shirtpot of money. And he hasn't played regularly on offense since high school. Yes, he COULD be great. He COULD be one of the rarest weapons ever seen. But he was an offensive curiosity even at Miami. Maybe he'd be awesome. And maybe he'd just be a guy with one tool.

They have nothing to lose by playing him regularly this year. But they shouldn't give him millions before that.
 
Bob Cook said:
Dickens Cider said:
Bob Cook said:
Double Down said:
The problem with the Bears is they only want to cough up money for shirtty offensive players.

Not good, young ones that can actually have an impact on the game. If you're afraid to pay Hester a bunch of money because he doesn't play enough, play him more. heck, put him at fricken runningback. Or tell him, on every first down, to run a deep corner and throw the ball to the deep sidelines. Every first down. (Got a better plan? Show me.) He's too fast to cover one-on-one. He could be a big-time weapon, but the Bears previously preferred to give Cedric Benson the ball so he could fall forward for a 2-yard-gain before fumbling or slamming into the back of his offensive line.

This is great, but I must point out that Curtis Benson never, ever fell forward.

Curtis Benson? I know this was accidental, but it works.

Curtis Enis, Cedric Benson... after a while, they all look like the same guy. That's a warning to you, Cedric Forte. :)

Forte's hope is that he wasn't drafted early in the first round like the rest of them. plus from a non-traditional power . . .
 
What does it say about the Bears when the best pure receiver in Chicago is pitching for the Cubs?
 
BYH said:
Double Down said:
The problem with the Bears is they only want to cough up money for shirtty offensive players.

Not good, young ones that can actually have an impact on the game. If you're afraid to pay Hester a bunch of money because he doesn't play enough, play him more. heck, put him at fricken runningback. Or tell him, on every first down, to run a deep corner and throw the ball to the deep sidelines. Every first down. (Got a better plan? Show me.) He's too fast to cover one-on-one. He could be a big-time weapon, but the Bears previously preferred to give Cedric Benson the ball so he could fall forward for a 2-yard-gain before fumbling or slamming into the back of his offensive line.

The problem, though, is the Bears have to play him regularly on offense before they figure out if he's worth a shirtpot of money. And he hasn't played regularly on offense since high school. Yes, he COULD be great. He COULD be one of the rarest weapons ever seen. But he was an offensive curiosity even at Miami. Maybe he'd be awesome. And maybe he'd just be a guy with one tool.

They have nothing to lose by playing him regularly this year. But they shouldn't give him millions before that.

Look, take it from someone who follows the Bears regularly: It makes no gosh darn sense to pay Rashied Davis almost twice what Devin Hester makes. Hester deserves more money, whether you think he'll be an every down star or not. Give him a $400,000 raise, then tell him you'll talk about renegotiating after this season. You're paying your two overrated tight ends something like $7 million between them. Are you telling me that Desmond Clark will have six times the impact that Hester will for the Bears this year? Because that's how he's being paid.

Desmond Clark can gargle my balls.
 
Devin deserves much more than he's currently being paid.

While some say he isn't an every down player, his effect on the game goes beyond him being on the field on every down. Most teams would love to be in the Bears position where their offense has a chance to start a drive on their own 40 yard line.

What do you think Peyton Manning would do if having a 60 yards of field to work with? It's not Devin's fault that the Bears offense resembles the Keystone Cops. His true worth isn't taken advantage of to the degree it should be because of the Bears ineptness offensively.

He's definitely worth more than what he's getting, I don't see how that is being argued.
 
doubledown68 said:
On the plus side, I'd love to know what it's like to walk around with hubris like that, even for a day.

Simple. Go defend the Royals all day. That alone gives you plenty of hubris. ;)
 
Hester is back in camp today, but it's not clear if he has a new deal and if not, why he changed his mind.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2008/07/bears-camp-da-2.html
 
Double Down said:
BYH said:
Double Down said:
The problem with the Bears is they only want to cough up money for shirtty offensive players.

Not good, young ones that can actually have an impact on the game. If you're afraid to pay Hester a bunch of money because he doesn't play enough, play him more. heck, put him at fricken runningback. Or tell him, on every first down, to run a deep corner and throw the ball to the deep sidelines. Every first down. (Got a better plan? Show me.) He's too fast to cover one-on-one. He could be a big-time weapon, but the Bears previously preferred to give Cedric Benson the ball so he could fall forward for a 2-yard-gain before fumbling or slamming into the back of his offensive line.

The problem, though, is the Bears have to play him regularly on offense before they figure out if he's worth a shirtpot of money. And he hasn't played regularly on offense since high school. Yes, he COULD be great. He COULD be one of the rarest weapons ever seen. But he was an offensive curiosity even at Miami. Maybe he'd be awesome. And maybe he'd just be a guy with one tool.

They have nothing to lose by playing him regularly this year. But they shouldn't give him millions before that.

Look, take it from someone who follows the Bears regularly: It makes no gosh darn sense to pay Rashied Davis almost twice what Devin Hester makes. Hester deserves more money, whether you think he'll be an every down star or not. Give him a $400,000 raise, then tell him you'll talk about renegotiating after this season. You're paying your two overrated tight ends something like $7 million between them. Are you telling me that Desmond Clark will have six times the impact that Hester will for the Bears this year? Because that's how he's being paid.

Desmond Clark can gargle my balls.

That's fine. A $400,000 raise is reasonable. I know where you're coming from...as I think I've said before, my wife is a Bears fan, so I see more of their games and hear more about how much they suck :D than I could possibly want otherwise.

But it sounded like he wanted a lot more than a $400,000 raise two days ago. And for once, the Bears are right to be cautious. I'd still bet Hester is more likely to be a curiosity on offense than a legitimate option.
 
BYH said:
Double Down said:
BYH said:
Double Down said:
The problem with the Bears is they only want to cough up money for shirtty offensive players.

Not good, young ones that can actually have an impact on the game. If you're afraid to pay Hester a bunch of money because he doesn't play enough, play him more. heck, put him at fricken runningback. Or tell him, on every first down, to run a deep corner and throw the ball to the deep sidelines. Every first down. (Got a better plan? Show me.) He's too fast to cover one-on-one. He could be a big-time weapon, but the Bears previously preferred to give Cedric Benson the ball so he could fall forward for a 2-yard-gain before fumbling or slamming into the back of his offensive line.

The problem, though, is the Bears have to play him regularly on offense before they figure out if he's worth a shirtpot of money. And he hasn't played regularly on offense since high school. Yes, he COULD be great. He COULD be one of the rarest weapons ever seen. But he was an offensive curiosity even at Miami. Maybe he'd be awesome. And maybe he'd just be a guy with one tool.

They have nothing to lose by playing him regularly this year. But they shouldn't give him millions before that.

Look, take it from someone who follows the Bears regularly: It makes no gosh darn sense to pay Rashied Davis almost twice what Devin Hester makes. Hester deserves more money, whether you think he'll be an every down star or not. Give him a $400,000 raise, then tell him you'll talk about renegotiating after this season. You're paying your two overrated tight ends something like $7 million between them. Are you telling me that Desmond Clark will have six times the impact that Hester will for the Bears this year? Because that's how he's being paid.

Desmond Clark can gargle my balls.

That's fine. A $400,000 raise is reasonable. I know where you're coming from...as I think I've said before, my wife is a Bears fan, so I see more of their games and hear more about how much they suck :D than I could possibly want otherwise.

But it sounded like he wanted a lot more than a $400,000 raise two days ago. And for once, the Bears are right to be cautious. I'd still bet Hester is more likely to be a curiosity on offense than a legitimate option.

He seems like he could be a great slot receiver, but not a #1.
 

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