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[Batman]

Eh, not the same. I know what BYM2 means. I've had more than one boss who did their "job" by wasting my time with their musings or suggestions while standing over me. It's only 15 minutes but, my goodness, OK, please, stop, here's some candy, leave.

I waste their time with 15-minute poop, coffee, and mental cleansing breaks. It tends to even out.

 

[Fredrick]

They can totally snoop and annoy you if you're working remotely too. As soon as they become technically aware enough to realize that, maybe working remotely will become more of a thing.

The suits actually could save some money for the CEOs by getting rid of all physical buildings. I know most newspapers have moved to small tacky buildings in their cities and have already sold the prime property, but this is some $$ that could be piled up to be given to the CEOs. As somebody said there's really no need to gather as a news team anymore with newspapers printed off site.

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

My experience has been they bug your ass even more if you're working remotely, with the endless messaging.

Some managers can't justify their positions unless they're playing God in a building, virtual or otherwise.

 

[Fredrick]

My experience has been they bug your ass even more if you're working remotely, with the endless messaging.

Some managers can't justify their positions unless they're playing God in a building, virtual or otherwise.

What gets me is the managers never gravitate toward the little guy/gal, the sports reporters who have more common sense than anybody in the building and are in the field daily. The managers gravitate toward the suits especially the corporate suits and they converse via email in all buzzwords.

 

[studthug12]

If I knew how easy it was to con newspaper executives with "new visions" for the industry and hop from conference to conference selling snake oil - I coulda have been rich.

It's not too late. They pay for anything but content and people who write it. They are probably even more desperate now and even more easily sold on "new visions."

 

[Fredrick]

It's not too late. They pay for anything but content and people who write it. They are probably even more desperate now and even more easily sold on "new visions."

Definitely. There's money to be made in consulting. Some smart consultants have pilfered a fortune from newspaper suits who as you say "pay for anything but content and people who write it."

 

[Moderator1]

Fuggin suits

 

[stix]

Around 2008-2009, we had a big companywide staff meeting on ways to cut costs. People volunteered the usual perfunctory stuff. "We could bring in our own water instead of having the water cooler in the corner!" "Turn down the heat!" "Make sure your computers are turned off when you leave." Then I said, "how about we get rid of all of it? With Wifi, cell phones and home computers we really don't NEED an office. Just have a morning conference call to establish a budget, an afternoon conference call to finalize things and go from there." I got the expected grunts and snorts from the managing editor "Oh, I don't know about that..." Bottom line: they wanted to be able to snoop and annoy us, and they can't do that if we're working unmolested out of sight.

A decade later, guess what this paper is transitioning to.

Well before this virus hit, I was doing a huge majority of my work from home. I can do basically anything from home that I can in the office, except there's some necessary applications installed on my office computer like timecard punches, etc., that I still drop in there for.

I have no clue why anyone needs an office nowadays. And with no live sports to cover at the moment, I could literally do 100 percent of what I'm doing now from across the globe.

When this stuff all subside, I would hope to heck that we pretty much stay the way we are right now. Any expenses on a large office are colossal waste of money.

 

[stix]

I am lucky to have a great boss, though.

If I get done what I need to get done, I hear nary a peep. He's not a micro-manager, which I'm incredibly thankful for. Actually one of the higher-ups in this business who spends his time on things worthy of spending his time on.

 

[goalmouth]

I'm old enough to remember when Advance (NJ.com ) had Forums. I read it mostly to stay plugged into HS baseball, when that was a thing.

There are still places online for mostly civil, informative anonymous discussion.