John Elway

[JackReacher]

But how many of these QBs were ELITE?

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

Favre played like he didn't give a shirt during his last several seasons with the Packers. I don't think anyone would ever say that about Montana or Elway.

My lifetime (40 years), I'd go:

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Brady
5. Marino
6. Favre
7. Bradshaw
8. Young
After that group, it's Moon, Kelly, Aikman, Fouts, Rodgers, Brees and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. I think another title would move Manning up to No. 2 and if Brady wins another title, and Manning doesn't, it might put him ahead of Manning.

 

[JackReacher]

Everyone's QB rankings are correct. Don't let anyone tell you differently.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Favre played like he didn't give a shirt during his last several seasons with the Packers. I don't think anyone would ever say that about Montana or Elway.

My lifetime (40 years), I'd go:

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Brady
5. Marino
6. Favre
7. Bradshaw
8. Young
After that group, it's Moon, Kelly, Aikman, Fouts, Rodgers, Brees and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. I think another title would move Manning up to No. 2 and if Brady wins another title, and Manning doesn't, it might put him ahead of Manning.

You give TB a LOT of credit.

Brady (and I hate Brady)
Montana
Marino
Elway
Manning
Favre
Brees
Young
Fouts
Kelly

Others
Namath, Bradshaw, Moon, Roethlisberger

I don't think Rodgers has enough years in.

 

[The Big Ragu]

This is all subjective -- it's opinion. Something a lot of people refuse to acknowledge.

Of QBs I saw, my top 10 list is:

1) Montana
2) Brady
3) Elway
4) Manning
5) Marino
6) Favre
7) Young
8 ) Brees
9) Kelly
10) Fouts

I take into account everything. Reputation, numbers, big moments, supporting cast, championships, etc.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

As noted already, Marino's annual passing numbers were stratospheric. That's saying something given he proceeded the Fouts/Air-Coryell Era.

Are you trying to say Marino "preceded" the Fouts/Air Coryell era?

Fouts' career: 1973-87
Marino's career: 1983-99

Or is this another one of the blue-font-without-the-blue-font posts?

Orville probably meant the other way around.
But even by Marino's rookie year, Fouts was an old, oft-injured stationary target playing on some of the most unbalanced teams the NFL has seen.
Marino was better in his second year in the league than Fouts ever was.

I didn't look to see how long Fouts played, but I knew off-hand by 1984 his best years were behind him.
I meant Marino came in after the heyday of Fouts and Air Coryell. I'd say that high-water mark was circia 1982.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

Favre played like he didn't give a shirt during his last several seasons with the Packers. I don't think anyone would ever say that about Montana or Elway.

My lifetime (40 years), I'd go:

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Brady
5. Marino
6. Favre
7. Bradshaw
8. Young
After that group, it's Moon, Kelly, Aikman, Fouts, Rodgers, Brees and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. I think another title would move Manning up to No. 2 and if Brady wins another title, and Manning doesn't, it might put him ahead of Manning.

You give TB a LOT of credit.

Brady (and I hate Brady)
Montana
Marino
Elway
Manning
Favre
Brees
Young
Fouts
Kelly

Others
Namath, Bradshaw, Moon, Roethlisberger

I don't think Rodgers has enough years in.

I can't say I'd argue with anyone who has Montana, Elway, Manning, Brady or Marino as their best ever.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Marino = Palmeiro

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

Marino = Palmeiro

Marino = Karl Malone.

Great stats, no title, dumb as a forking rock.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Marino = Palmeiro

Marino = Karl Malone.

Great stats, no title, dumb as a forking rock.

Haha.

 

[BTExpress]

Also, what is your obsession with quarterbacks who struggle to get to and/or win Super Bowls?

I'm obsessed with "analysis" that looks at, say, a Patriots team that held the high-flying Rams to 17 points in the Super Bowl and then uses that result to declare, "Yep, Tom Brady is now officially a winner."

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Also, what is your obsession with quarterbacks who struggle to get to and/or win Super Bowls?

I'm obsessed with "analysis" that looks at, say, a Patriots team that held the high-flying Rams to 17 points in the Super Bowl and then uses that result to declare, "Yep, Tom Brady is now officially a winner."

Leaving a little out of that equation, aren't we?