Morrissey vs. Mariotti

[soccer dad]

the american marty york.

 

[Knighthawk]

My favorite part of the story is that Mariotti was afraid to go to the clubhouse because Tony Phillips screamed at him. Is there any baseball writer who covered Phillips that never got screamed at? He went most of a season yelling at me when I came near him, all because he had me confused with another writer with the same first name.

In terms of dealing with media, Tony Phillips was one of the best players I ever covered.

Oh, Tony was great. He just got a little excited from time to time, and I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Before and after that interlude, I got wonderful stuff from him.

One of my favorite memories is watching the end of the OJ chase in the Tiger Stadium clubhouse with Tony doing commentary. I can't print a single word of it, as anyone who covered Tony would expect, but it was hysterical.

He was worthless for electronic media and he would cut you off in a heartbeat if you ever referred to him as a utility man, but he was never dull.

 

[DyePack]

My favorite part of the story is that Mariotti was afraid to go to the clubhouse because Tony Phillips screamed at him. Is there any baseball writer who covered Phillips that never got screamed at? He went most of a season yelling at me when I came near him, all because he had me confused with another writer with the same first name.

In terms of dealing with media, Tony Phillips was one of the best players I ever covered.

Oh, Tony was great. He just got a little excited from time to time, and I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Before and after that interlude, I got wonderful stuff from him.

One of my favorite memories is watching the end of the OJ chase in the Tiger Stadium clubhouse with Tony doing commentary. I can't print a single word of it, as anyone who covered Tony would expect, but it was hysterical.

He was worthless for electronic media and he would cut you off in a heartbeat if you ever referred to him as a utility man, but he was never dull.

Phillips was awful the year I had him in Strat-O-Matic. A 4 at every position and really only a good hitter from one side of the plate.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

CT: beautiful.

Real Chicago journalists (from my time . . . ) weep.

 

[DyePack]

CT: beautiful.

Real Chicago journalists (from my time . . . ) weep.

Are these the same "real journalists" who needed Guillen to shed light on the whole thing?
The same "real journalists" who were beaten by a blogger at the start of the year and now by a manager?

 

[joe king]

Mariotti's failure to visit the locker room doesn't explain how he gets the quotes he does use. It goes beyond picking up the quote sheet or watching the postgame interviews on TV. Often, he'll call the Sun-Times desk shortly before deadline and have quotes in stories filed by the beat writers read back to him. And the beat writers hate him for it.

Holy shirt, how did he even get a big-time job, much less keep one?

 

[Clerk Typist]

DyePack: My hunch is that the real journalists in Chicago found something better (more interesting? more important?) to write about than Jay Mariotti.

 

[Chi City 81]

Mariotti's failure to visit the locker room doesn't explain how he gets the quotes he does use. It goes beyond picking up the quote sheet or watching the postgame interviews on TV. Often, he'll call the Sun-Times desk shortly before deadline and have quotes in stories filed by the beat writers read back to him. And the beat writers hate him for it.

Holy shirt, how did he even get a big-time job, much less keep one?

By being an effective shirt-stirrer.

 

[DyePack]

DyePack: My hunch is that the real journalists in Chicago found something better (more interesting? more important?) to write about than Jay Mariotti.

I guess the standards have changed.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

The Doctor is correct. On the tab side, shirt-stirring is paramount.

 

[ballscribe]

I was in the car today, listening to the ESPN radio broadcast of the White Sox game, when Dan Shulman went on and on about a confrontation during the manager's scrum between Guillen and Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle.

Apparently it went on for about 10 minutes, in front of a ton of people, with Ortiz hammering and hammering, according to Shulman, trying to bait Ozzie about how he was disrespecting all Latinos with his behaviour, yada, yada, yada.

From what I remember, Ozzie finally told Jesus that didn't deserve to be in the conversation, since he barely even qualified as a Latino. Unlike Ozzie, Jesus never actually lived in a Latin-American country. Something like that. I'm paraphrasing. Then blew him off, as he continued to cordially answer questions from the rest of the gathering, including some on the same issue.

Anybody hear anything about this? Be interesting to see what the printed result of all that will be.

Here it is (link here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/3999666.html

First few grafs:
Jackie Robinson, Roberto Clemente and Felipe Alou broke barriers and paid heavy prices while eliminating stereotypes so America could look at Latinos and African-Americans with respect. At times, they bit their tongues. On important occasions, they spoke loud and led the chorus for the rights of their people.

Because of people such as Robinson, Clemente and Alou, now we rarely ever see characters such as Buckwheat of the Our Gang movies or the hapless Latino character that you once saw in old Westerns. Robinson, Clemente and Alou are reasons their people are no longer looked upon as caricatures.

Sadly, however, Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen is setting his people back with his series of ignorant and vulgar rants....

 

[Left_Coast]

Mariotti's failure to visit the locker room doesn't explain how he gets the quotes he does use. It goes beyond picking up the quote sheet or watching the postgame interviews on TV. Often, he'll call the Sun-Times desk shortly before deadline and have quotes in stories filed by the beat writers read back to him. And the beat writers hate him for it.

If that's true, that's wholly unacceptable for anyone -- big-city columnist or weekly preps writer.