Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

[ADifferentOkie]

But Carlson didn't break any new ground in her column. She didn't write anything that hasn't been talked about around here for years; nothing that wasn't all over the message boards.
She might be the biggest name to, in essence, call Reid soft, but she is far from the first.

 

[chilidog75]

But Carlson didn't break any new ground in her column. She didn't write anything that hasn't been talked about around here for years; nothing that wasn't all over the message boards.
She might be the biggest name to, in essence, call Reid soft, but she is far from the first.

She was the first to do it in a state-wide newspaper though. That does count for something, I think. And hopefully most journalists feel their columns should be viewed and treated as at least a notch above anonymous message-board ramblings.
Just because something is "all over" pokey.com or whatever the web site is called, doesn't necessarily mean it should have a place in a traditional news outlet.

 

[Ira_Schoffel]

But Carlson didn't break any new ground in her column. She didn't write anything that hasn't been talked about around here for years; nothing that wasn't all over the message boards.
She might be the biggest name to, in essence, call Reid soft, but she is far from the first.

She was the first to do it in a state-wide newspaper though. That does count for something, I think. And hopefully most journalists feel their columns should be viewed and treated as at least a notch above anonymous message-board ramblings.
Just because something is "all over" pokey.com or whatever the web site is called, doesn't necessarily mean it should have a place in a traditional news outlet.

Exactly. Follow that logic: On the one hand, you're gonna say that we should dismiss the readers' complaints about us because they're just a bunch of message board-posting freaks who don't know what the hell they're talking about. And now, Carlson's column was somehow justified because it was the same stuff already on message boards. Gotcha. (And we're almost at 40 pages ... wahooo!)

 

[jgmacg]

There is a disconnect -- darn! -- between me and anyone who thought this'un would go to 38 pages.

If this thread makes it to 50 pages, I will disconnect my computer.

 

[ADifferentOkie]

I agree we should be held to a higher standard, but I think the outburst was surprising considering it was the popular notion (which was fed by the coaches).

 

[murciélago]

I just want to keep this going so jgmacg has to disconnect the ol' computer.

 

[hondo]

Christ, not that "they never played the game," about the media.
Football is a pretty simple game. Coaches try to make it as complicated as possible to cover their ashes and create the illusion, as Jim Mora so eloquently put it, that "we won't know and we can't know."
Guess what coaches ... we do know, and so do most of your knowledgable fans who watch and attend games. And that scares the crap out of you.

dumbest post of the day.

Why? Do you think that only those who played football are qualified to write about it. That would be news to White House Press corps going back to George Washington, none of whom were ever president before they covered one.

 

[wickedwritah]

And the fanboys return!

 

[hondo]

There is a disconnect -- darn! -- between me and anyone who thought this'un would go to 38 pages.

If this thread makes it to 50 pages, I will disconnect my computer.

There has been some very valuable give-and-take on this thread about the media and our role in dealing with athletes and coaches at the college level. If it goes 50 pages, big deal. It's been an important discussion and frequently entertaining.

 

[Birdscribe]

Christ, not that "they never played the game," about the media.
Football is a pretty simple game. Coaches try to make it as complicated as possible to cover their ashes and create the illusion, as Jim Mora so eloquently put it, that "we won't know and we can't know."
Guess what coaches ... we do know, and so do most of your knowledgable fans who watch and attend games. And that scares the crap out of you.

dumbest post of the day.

Why? Do you think that only those who played football are qualified to write about it. That would be news to White House Press corps going back to George Washington, none of whom were ever president before they covered one.

Excellent point. Nothing dumb about that post at all.

The never-played-the-game angle is the most tiresome, cliched and frankly WRONG angle in this entire thread -- or any thread on this subject for that matter.

Mike Golic played that when he was properly pashed over for the Monday Night Football gig in favor of Tony Kornheiser. Not only did that reek of sour grapes, but it was flat-out wrong. I'd rather listen to Tony K read the phone book than Golic read anything.

 

[wickedwritah]

Golic is too busy with his NutriSystem meals to get a word in edgewise over Tony.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Christ, not that "they never played the game," about the media.
Football is a pretty simple game. Coaches try to make it as complicated as possible to cover their ashes and create the illusion, as Jim Mora so eloquently put it, that "we won't know and we can't know."
Guess what coaches ... we do know, and so do most of your knowledgable fans who watch and attend games. And that scares the crap out of you.

dumbest post of the day.

Why? Do you think that only those who played football are qualified to write about it. That would be news to White House Press corps going back to George Washington, none of whom were ever president before they covered one.

Bingo.

If you carry the "never played the game" further, then only former Presidents can criticize Bush. Only former cast members can be critical of Saturday Night Live. And only former teen pop stars who've had two children with a backup dancer/wannbe rapper can be critical of Britney Spears.