Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

[hondo]

Christ, not that "they never played the game," about the media.
Football is a pretty simple game. Coaches try to make it as complicated as possible to cover their ashes and create the illusion, as Jim Mora so eloquently put it, that "we won't know and we can't know."
Guess what coaches ... we do know, and so do most of your knowledgable fans who watch and attend games. And that scares the crap out of you.

dumbest post of the day.

Why? Do you think that only those who played football are qualified to write about it. That would be news to White House Press corps going back to George Washington, none of whom were ever president before they covered one.

Bingo.

If you carry the "never played the game" further, then only former Presidents can criticize Bush. Only former cast members can be critical of Saturday Night Live. And only former teen pop stars who've had two children with a backup dancer/wannbe rapper can be critical of Britney Spears.

And only brain-dead skanks can be critical of Paris Hilton.

 

[Ace]

Christ, not that "they never played the game," about the media.
Football is a pretty simple game. Coaches try to make it as complicated as possible to cover their ashes and create the illusion, as Jim Mora so eloquently put it, that "we won't know and we can't know."
Guess what coaches ... we do know, and so do most of your knowledgable fans who watch and attend games. And that scares the crap out of you.

dumbest post of the day.

Why? Do you think that only those who played football are qualified to write about it. That would be news to White House Press corps going back to George Washington, none of whom were ever president before they covered one.

Bingo.

If you carry the "never played the game" further, then only former Presidents can criticize Bush. Only former cast members can be critical of Saturday Night Live. And only former teen pop stars who've had two children with a backup dancer/wannbe rapper can be critical of Britney Spears.

And only brain-dead skanks can be critical of Paris Hilton.

Only people who have had to suffer through living in Jacksonville can be critical of Jacksonville.

 

[MoonoverMontgomery]

There is a disconnect -- darn! -- between me and anyone who thought this'un would go to 38 pages.

If this thread makes it to 50 pages, I will disconnect my computer.
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There is a disconnect -- darn! -- between me and anyone who thought this'un would go to 38 pages.

If this thread makes it to 50 pages, I will disconnect my computer.

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[IGotQuestions]

one of my personal pet peeves is the popular notion among coaches and athletes that sports writers are either nerds who are jealous of athletes or were fringe athletes themselves not quite good enough to be bigger stars. It's been my experience that about half of the reporters I've run into in this profession were actually pretty darn good at a sport in high school or college (intramural).

 

[cranberry]

one of my personal pet peeves is the popular notion among coaches and athletes that sports writers are either nerds who are jealous of athletes or were fringe athletes themselves not quite good enough to be bigger stars. It's been my experience that about half of the reporters I've run into in this profession were actually pretty darn good at a sport in high school or college (intramural).

So you're saying that sports writers aren't necessarily nerds or fringe athletes; that, in fact, some were actually good in high school and/or college intramural sports?

I don't get it.

Anyway, having played or coached a sport would presumably give a person a more thorough knowledge of the subject matter he or she is covering. It isn't a prerequisite for covering a sport but it's certainly an advantage.

 

[IGotQuestions]

Reread. I'm saying the popular notion is that we're nerds or bad athletes.

 

[Ace]

Reread. I'm saying the popular notion is that we're nerds or bad athletes.

Can't we be both?

 

[JayFarrar]

I'm a proud nerd, who also played college football.
So suck it.
That line of reasoning does extend to addiction therapists. You can't counsel someone, if you haven't beaten an addiction yourself. Its also that reasoning that pops up when ex-players get hired to do color for TV.
Being an ex-player can be useful in offering some insight. But what it really is a sense of entitlement and a disconnect between the wealthy and powerful with the media. The rich have always resented the fact that a kid making $10 a hour can ruin their life.This is filtering down to college athletes — potential millionaires — and their coaches, who are millionaires.
Jenni Carlson is probably making about 6 percent of Gundy's annual salary and if she really wanted him fired, she could get it done. Or make his life so miserable he'd quit on his own.
And a friend who does AA and NA says all the NA chicks are hot.

 

[Big_Space]

Christ, not that "they never played the game," about the media.
Football is a pretty simple game. Coaches try to make it as complicated as possible to cover their ashes and create the illusion, as Jim Mora so eloquently put it, that "we won't know and we can't know."
Guess what coaches ... we do know, and so do most of your knowledgable fans who watch and attend games. And that scares the crap out of you.

dumbest post of the day.

Why? Do you think that only those who played football are qualified to write about it. That would be news to White House Press corps going back to George Washington, none of whom were ever president before they covered one.

??????????????

"COVERING" something is different than doing it. I can cover a shuttle launch, I can't fly one.

I ashume you are qualified to write about it, not because you played but because you are a good writer.

Not saying only those who played are qualified to cover a sport, but don't ashume you know as much as the coach or the player. That's insane.

 

[Tom Petty]

a lotta this argument is bullship. i just as easily can say all ex-athletes will suck at being journalists for the same forking reason.

 

[Big_Space]

a lotta this argument is bullship. i just as easily can say all ex-athletes will suck at being journalists for the same forking reason.

and who would argue with that?

 

[Tom Petty]

a lotta this argument is bullship. i just as easily can say all ex-athletes will suck at being journalists for the same forking reason.

and who would argue with that?

some illogical fork.