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One of the coldest Februarys in recent years

Or maybe we could hire him to be Hondo's personal tutor.
 
Mystery Meat said:
Long-term climate changes can NOT be verified or dismissed becuase of short-term weather events.

Can we ALL get past this already?

Some people simply can't.
 
AlleyAllen said:
wicked said:
I am not anti-global warming mind you ...

But the climate always has been affected by mammals' impacts on it. Are we using more resources than we need to? Sure. But what's to say that some of this process wouldn't be happening even if we were carbon-footprint neutral, solar- and nuclear-power consuming, emissions-less humans?

Not saying it wouldn't happen. Tony's right, to an extent. The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming. No one doubts that, but to make that the basis for all other arguments against global warming misses one tiny point that you were smart enough to pick up on....

Humans can and do accelerate that natural process. That's what we're referring to.
Honest question for you: If we were in a cooling cycle right now, would humans be contributing to and accelerating that natural process? That was the mantra in the 1970s.

So either way, we're always at fault and simply shouldn't be here.
 
old_tony said:
AlleyAllen said:
wicked said:
I am not anti-global warming mind you ...

But the climate always has been affected by mammals' impacts on it. Are we using more resources than we need to? Sure. But what's to say that some of this process wouldn't be happening even if we were carbon-footprint neutral, solar- and nuclear-power consuming, emissions-less humans?

Not saying it wouldn't happen. Tony's right, to an extent. The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming. No one doubts that, but to make that the basis for all other arguments against global warming misses one tiny point that you were smart enough to pick up on....

Humans can and do accelerate that natural process. That's what we're referring to.
Honest question for you: If we were in a cooling cycle right now, would humans be contributing to and accelerating that natural process? That was the mantra in the 1970s.

So either way, we're always at fault and simply shouldn't be here.

Because scientists were wrong in the '70s, they must be wrong now?

Yeah, that's not a logic fallacy at all.
 
85bears said:
old_tony said:
AlleyAllen said:
wicked said:
I am not anti-global warming mind you ...

But the climate always has been affected by mammals' impacts on it. Are we using more resources than we need to? Sure. But what's to say that some of this process wouldn't be happening even if we were carbon-footprint neutral, solar- and nuclear-power consuming, emissions-less humans?

Not saying it wouldn't happen. Tony's right, to an extent. The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming. No one doubts that, but to make that the basis for all other arguments against global warming misses one tiny point that you were smart enough to pick up on....

Humans can and do accelerate that natural process. That's what we're referring to.
Honest question for you: If we were in a cooling cycle right now, would humans be contributing to and accelerating that natural process? That was the mantra in the 1970s.

So either way, we're always at fault and simply shouldn't be here.

Because scientists were wrong in the '70s, they must be wrong now?

Yeah, that's not a logic fallacy at all.
No one's saying the scientists were wrong in the 70s. At that time, the earth had been cooling for 30 years. Of course, the global cooling crowd of the 70s wasn't as idiotic and obnoxius (and anti-American) as the global warming crowd of today is.

But since the earth temps were going down from 1945-76, obviously it was something we were doing. And it occurs to me that the air is a lot cleaner now than it was in the 70s, so maybe the solution to global warming is to go back to the polluting ways of the 70s. You global warming alarmists up for that?
 
old_tony said:
AlleyAllen said:
wicked said:
I am not anti-global warming mind you ...

But the climate always has been affected by mammals' impacts on it. Are we using more resources than we need to? Sure. But what's to say that some of this process wouldn't be happening even if we were carbon-footprint neutral, solar- and nuclear-power consuming, emissions-less humans?

Not saying it wouldn't happen. Tony's right, to an extent. The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming. No one doubts that, but to make that the basis for all other arguments against global warming misses one tiny point that you were smart enough to pick up on....

Humans can and do accelerate that natural process. That's what we're referring to.
Honest question for you: If we were in a cooling cycle right now, would humans be contributing to and accelerating that natural process? That was the mantra in the 1970s.

So either way, we're always at fault and simply shouldn't be here.

Jesus, Tony, it's impossible to have even a modicum of discussion with you because you do nothing but play the extremes. If you're not going to even try, you're not worth my effort.
 
Tony,

Go find a Yahoo message board where you can yammer on about the "global warming crowd" being "anti-American".

You don't have a forking clue what you're talking about.
 
I think we found out what's really causing global warming. It's all the hot air spewed by people like Tony, Yawn, Indiansnetwork, et.al.

A box full of muzzles would probably help the global warming effects.
 
old_tony said:
85bears said:
old_tony said:
AlleyAllen said:
wicked said:
I am not anti-global warming mind you ...

But the climate always has been affected by mammals' impacts on it. Are we using more resources than we need to? Sure. But what's to say that some of this process wouldn't be happening even if we were carbon-footprint neutral, solar- and nuclear-power consuming, emissions-less humans?

Not saying it wouldn't happen. Tony's right, to an extent. The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming. No one doubts that, but to make that the basis for all other arguments against global warming misses one tiny point that you were smart enough to pick up on....

Humans can and do accelerate that natural process. That's what we're referring to.
Honest question for you: If we were in a cooling cycle right now, would humans be contributing to and accelerating that natural process? That was the mantra in the 1970s.

So either way, we're always at fault and simply shouldn't be here.

Because scientists were wrong in the '70s, they must be wrong now?

Yeah, that's not a logic fallacy at all.
No one's saying the scientists were wrong in the 70s. At that time, the earth had been cooling for 30 years. Of course, the global cooling crowd of the 70s wasn't as idiotic and obnoxius (and anti-American) as the global warming crowd of today is.

But since the earth temps were going down from 1945-76, obviously it was something we were doing. And it occurs to me that the air is a lot cleaner now than it was in the 70s, so maybe the solution to global warming is to go back to the polluting ways of the 70s. You global warming alarmists up for that?

You are a complete forking idiot.
 
And since the topic of hot air is, well, in the air....

What's the difference between the Hindenburg and Rush Limbaugh?









One's a Nazi gasbag.
The other's a blimp.

(sorry...stole that from Doonesbury).
 

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