85bears said:
old_tony said:
AlleyAllen said:
wicked said:
I am not anti-global warming mind you ...
But the climate always has been affected by mammals' impacts on it. Are we using more resources than we need to? Sure. But what's to say that some of this process wouldn't be happening even if we were carbon-footprint neutral, solar- and nuclear-power consuming, emissions-less humans?
Not saying it wouldn't happen. Tony's right, to an extent. The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming. No one doubts that, but to make that the basis for all other arguments against global warming misses one tiny point that you were smart enough to pick up on....
Humans can and do accelerate that natural process. That's what we're referring to.
Honest question for you: If we were in a cooling cycle right now, would humans be contributing to and accelerating that natural process? That was the mantra in the 1970s.
So either way, we're always at fault and simply shouldn't be here.
Because scientists were wrong in the '70s, they must be wrong now?
Yeah, that's not a logic fallacy at all.
No one's saying the scientists were wrong in the 70s. At that time, the earth had been cooling for 30 years. Of course, the global cooling crowd of the 70s wasn't as idiotic and obnoxius (and anti-American) as the global warming crowd of today is.
But since the earth temps were going down from 1945-76, obviously it was something we were doing. And it occurs to me that the air is a lot cleaner now than it was in the 70s, so maybe the solution to global warming is to go back to the polluting ways of the 70s. You global warming alarmists up for that?