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PD: Exit polls show Kobe as MVP

Rumpleforeskin said:
Kobe Bryant has accounted for 26 percent of his team's scoring. Kevin Garnett has accounted for 19 percent.

LA, if they didn't grab Gasol, would have two players on their starting roster right now in double figures, OTHER than Bryant. Odom averages 14.2 (which includes inflated totals with Bynum and Gasol out) and Fisher scores 11.7 ppg.

Boston has three players over 17 points per game, led by Pierce's 19.8. Garnett scores 19 per game. Allen averages 17.9 ppg. Rondo has just over 10 ppg.

how many people did he rape this year?
 
BYH said:
The Good Doctor said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
Kevin Garnett?

No. Missed too many games.

Doesn't matter. They gained, what, 45 wins following his arrival?

An absolute joke if he doesn't win it.

I always think it's funny when people think that Kevin Garnett is solely responsible for this reniassance in Boston. Admittedly, he is a big part of the turnaround, but let's not forget that Boston phoned it in last year. You might be able to argue whether they intentionally tanked games, but the effort level was nowhere near what it is now. Secondly, didn't the Celtics bring in another all-star?...Oh yeah, that's right, they added Ray Allen to the mix as well. I'm not saying that Garnett shouldn't be in the running, but it has to go to Kobe. Giving it to LeBron would be a joke after Kobe did more with less (yes, less than LeBron has now) in the West during the 2006 campaign, including the 81 point game, and did not win the MVP. Chris Paul is the best bet for those who are too stubborn to vote for Kobe, but still, how does it not go to Bryant? People tend to forget that, even though they brought in Pau and Bynum has become a beast, the Lakers have been hit with the injury bug all year. This includes Kobe, who is playing with a torn tendon in a finger on his shooting hand; which you don't hear much about anymore because his level of play has not dropped off since. I could easily say that Kobe deserves it for getting hosed in the past, but I don't need to--he is the common sense choice for MVP this year.

And as for the "how many people did he rape this year" comment, maybe your sixth grade friends finds that funny, but it lacks humor and originality.
 
Well if we're going for most important to his team, it's gotta be Paul, although in that case I think a guy like Chris Bosh needs to be thrown in there as a runner up somewhere. The Raptors just do not win without him as they proved when he went out for something lie 15 games.
I could live with Kobe winning it. I hate the guy, but he has been arguably the leagues best player for the last couple of years and I think he has only gotten better this year.
But then again, I don't watch a whole lot of NBA.
 
service_gamer said:
And as for the "how many people did he rape this year" comment, maybe your sixth grade friends finds that funny, but it lacks humor and originality.

Kobe will always be followed by the rape charges, as he should be. It's part of his legacy for better or worse. The attempted joke is not funny and neither are the apologists who insist he did nothing wrong.

That said and as much as it pains me to admit it, that he hasn't won an MVP is travesty.
 
sportschick said:
service_gamer said:
And as for the "how many people did he rape this year" comment, maybe your sixth grade friends finds that funny, but it lacks humor and originality.

Kobe will always be followed by the rape charges, as he should be. It's part of his legacy for better or worse. The attempted joke is not funny and neither are the apologists who insist he did nothing wrong.

That said and as much as it pains me to admit it, that he hasn't won an MVP is travesty.

Why should he be followed by something he wasn't convicted of? If you want to hang infidelity over his head, fine. You'll be doing a lotta hanging over a lotta heads.
 
OK, quick question. Once again if Kobe or Paul win there's no problem here. Say Ray Allen goes to Boston but KG doesn't. How many wins you think the Celts have now. Warning: Guesses over 40 are either incorrect or made by Tom Heinsohn.
 
Oz said:
BYH said:
The Good Doctor said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
Kevin Garnett?

No. Missed too many games.

Doesn't matter. They gained, what, 45 wins following his arrival?

An absolute joke if he doesn't win it.

Normally, I would think the same. But the Lakers have been without Bynum most of the season, and the Lakers ares till in the hunt for home-court advantage throughout the playoffs. What Kobe's done this season has been pretty remarkable. And I can't stand Kobe.
But it was the addition of Gasol that pushed the Lakers to the favorite's role in th West. Wouldn't Gasol then be more valuable under that thinking?

I'm not a Kobe fan, though he is a superb talent. I'm almost to the point where I wish he would just win the darn award and get it over with and the media would get over fretting about it every season. It's almost become like the Academy Awards when some old actor facing death finally wins an award when it's truly not his best role. (And I'd vote for Chris Paul this season if I had one).
 
Second Thoughts said:
Oz said:
Normally, I would think the same. But the Lakers have been without Bynum most of the season, and the Lakers ares till in the hunt for home-court advantage throughout the playoffs. What Kobe's done this season has been pretty remarkable. And I can't stand Kobe.

But it was the addition of Gasol that pushed the Lakers to the favorite's role in the West. Wouldn't Gasol then be more valuable under that thinking?

No, he wouldn't. Gasol might have been the missing piece, but that doesn't make him the player the Lakers could least afford to lose. Who would you rather lose, Kobe or Gasol? It's a no-brainer there. Kobe kept the Lakers in contention among the Western Conference elite well before Gasol got there and helped them go on a tear in February. Switch the roles and a trade for Kobe would help the Lakers make a push for the playoffs.

Again, I can't stand Kobe, but he's probably the MVP this season.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
sportschick said:
service_gamer said:
And as for the "how many people did he rape this year" comment, maybe your sixth grade friends finds that funny, but it lacks humor and originality.

Kobe will always be followed by the rape charges, as he should be. It's part of his legacy for better or worse. The attempted joke is not funny and neither are the apologists who insist he did nothing wrong.

That said and as much as it pains me to admit it, that he hasn't won an MVP is travesty.

Why should he be followed by something he wasn't convicted of? If you want to hang infidelity over his head, fine. You'll be doing a lotta hanging over a lotta heads.

The evidence was pretty damning, dools. It was no Duke lacrosse case.
 
sportschick said:
dooley_womack1 said:
sportschick said:
service_gamer said:
And as for the "how many people did he rape this year" comment, maybe your sixth grade friends finds that funny, but it lacks humor and originality.

Kobe will always be followed by the rape charges, as he should be. It's part of his legacy for better or worse. The attempted joke is not funny and neither are the apologists who insist he did nothing wrong.

That said and as much as it pains me to admit it, that he hasn't won an MVP is travesty.

Why should he be followed by something he wasn't convicted of? If you want to hang infidelity over his head, fine. You'll be doing a lotta hanging over a lotta heads.

The evidence was pretty damning, dools. It was no Duke lacrosse case.

Not trying to be a deck, but what evidence? I know there was evidence of sex. What was the evidence of rape?
 
BYH said:
The Good Doctor said:
BYH said:
The Good Doctor said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
Kevin Garnett?

No. Missed too many games.

Doesn't matter. They gained, what, 45 wins following his arrival?

An absolute joke if he doesn't win it.

Yep. Ray Allen had absolutely nothing to do with any of their wins. Garnett won't win it. Call it a joke if you like. It has been before. *cough* Karl Malone *cough*

Dooley noted on Ray Allen. Still...the guy who put them WAAAAAAAAY over the top was Garnett.
They also have Paul Pierce and they play in the East.
I love Garnett but I don't think he deserves the MVP.
 
JC said:
BYH said:
The Good Doctor said:
BYH said:
The Good Doctor said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
Kevin Garnett?

No. Missed too many games.

Doesn't matter. They gained, what, 45 wins following his arrival?

An absolute joke if he doesn't win it.

Yep. Ray Allen had absolutely nothing to do with any of their wins. Garnett won't win it. Call it a joke if you like. It has been before. *cough* Karl Malone *cough*

Dooley noted on Ray Allen. Still...the guy who put them WAAAAAAAAY over the top was Garnett.
They also have Paul Pierce and they play in the East.
I love Garnett but I don't think he deserves the MVP.

Agree, from watching a lot of Celtics games this season, I think if you're going to nominate a Celtic, it should be Paul Pierce. Sure the additions have meant a lot, but Pierce has been the guy who comes up big for them late in games.

But Kobe Bryant should win it, with Chris Paul a close second.
Bryant has done everything this season that everyone has always asked him to do. He's done it on a team with a slew of injuries (both Bynum and Gasol have missed large amounts of time, add Ariza, Radmanovic and Walton, too). He's also done it with a pinkie finger on his shooting hand in dire need of surgery.
Also people forget even after Bynum went out and BEFORE they acquired Gasol, the Lakers were No. 1 or 2 in the West, so it's not like Gasol vaulted them into the top of the West. He's just helped the Lakers maintain the spot they were already in.
 

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