Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

[garrow]

 

[Alma]

This country has more single-parent households than any other country, three times more than the previous generation, and around 80 percent of those are mother-only.

Concerning? No? A matter worth getting to the bottom of? No?

 

[MisterCreosote]

Concerning? No? A matter worth getting to the bottom of? No?

Absolutely, on both counts.

I'm just saying there is a very real and recent surge in absentee fathers. And I don't think it has much to do with abortions and who does or doesn't get a "say."

 

[Alma]

Actually, I think that skews the issue to a point. I think this happened a lot before, the people didn't talk about it or kept it quiet, or shipped the women off to have their babies with Aunt Mabel in east b******. And the other prong I would say is that yeah, men have reacted to the growing equality of women in a truly s*** manner. So there's that.

You don't think the "we shot some sperm" perspective, I dunno, might make men think they're dispensible/unnecessary in the parenting equation?

 

[Alma]

Absolutely, on both counts.

I'm just saying there is a very real and recent surge in absentee fathers. And I don't think it has much to do with abortions and who does or doesn't get a "say."

I think there might some small connection there, but I'm speaking more to the "men are the sperm donors here" mindset. There is real and recent surge, yes. Getting to the bottom of that is not a particular priority in our country.

 

[MisterCreosote]

In my circles, we use "sperm donor" as a derogatory term for the deadbeat fathers we know. My nephew's "father" chief among them.

I thought until today that it was pretty universally used as an insult.

 

[heyabbott]

This is so simplistic and all-encompassing as to be ridiculous. Loads of people contribute hundreds, thousands, millions of dollars -- whatever they can afford, and probably even some that they cannot -- to humanitarian/child-related causes, and many others actually do foster and adopt kids, or teach, mentor, or otherwise help them, often on a long-term basis, or regularly, or even occasionally but memorably for said kids.

And many of them who do so are even -- gulp -- Christians.

But rarely rightwing, conservative republican anti-abortion Christians. They are against holistic support for the less fortunate. They are against community action to prevent not only crime but unwanted pregnancies. They want to deny Gays, Muslims and Jews from adopting Christian babies and being foster parents . Humanitarians are libertards. Pooling resources to help more people, using economies of scale to help more people is against their warped and perverted Christian beliefs.

 

[doctorquant]

Speaking of warped and perverted ...

 

[Baron Scicluna]

The wenalway is strong with this one.

Where there's a will, there's a wenalway.

 

[DanielSimpsonDay]

i wen i wenalway

 

[Twirling Time]

Invoking W*n**w*y used to be a banning offense.

 

[User 150927]

You don't think the "we shot some sperm" perspective, I dunno, might make men think they're dispensible/unnecessary in the parenting equation?

Which came first? Men doing that, or men being called out for doing it?

We know far more about the way people behave now than we did 65 years ago. My mother was pregnant the first time she got married in 1955. The man she eventually married that time was already married and had abandoned his first family to live with my mother. She subsequently had a second child with that man, and before my brother was two, the father had moved on to another woman. But nobody talked about it. And my mother lied about her wedding date for her entire life. So? Anecdotal, but I bet other people have anecdotes about it.