Running gun violence thread

[Bob Cook]

At this point, there's one side that has its story straight, and it's not the cops.

 

[RickStain]

The whole "beat the crap out of an innocent guy, then charged him for property damage for bleeding on them, then lied about it under oath" thing is enough to make me want to riot.

The entire Ferguson Police Department should be wiped out and replaced.

 

[outofplace]

The "strong-armed robbery" involved numerous packs of Swisher Sweets, which sell two packs for 99 cents. We're talking 10 bucks at most.

If you have never heisted 10 bucks worth of stuff from a convenience store, you've lived a cleaner life than I have.

That's pretty weak. I've never stolen a dime from a store (whatchu want, a cookie?) and I assume most people haven't either.

And certainly not pushing around the storekeep.

I like you, LTL, but trying to justify the actions in that convenience store is utter bullcrap.

Boy ... if we throw it open to the group I'd be willing to bet well more than half have lifted that amount.

The pushing around of the guy is something different, but let's not act like this was a crime that ever would have resulted in a felony -- or any charges even. AND it had nothing to do with the stop.

Stealing is acceptable as long as you do it on a small enough scale? Bullshirt.

Whether or not that is relevant to this discussion is another matter. Unfortunately, the police can't seem to get the story straight.

 

[qtlaw]

Everything is in degrees in our society; please remember that. Our country was not built on absolutes.

Stealing a box of cigars ($10?) is not acceptable behavior and is to be frowned upon.

But killing that person while he is unarmed and 35 ft away (still more than a room away) so far exceeds the bounds of acceptable behavior by our law enforcement personnel that it should be condemned.

 

[Boom_70]

Everything is in degrees in our society; please remember that. Our country was not built on absolutes.

Stealing a box of cigars ($10?) is not acceptable behavior and is to be frowned upon.

But killing that person while he is unarmed and 35 ft away (still more than a room away) so far exceeds the bounds of acceptable behavior by our law enforcement personnel that it should be condemned.

But kill someone sitting on their porch on the Southside of Chicago -- perfectly fine.

 

[Football_Bat]

The local police has already FUBAR'd the case from the beginning. It'll take the FBI to sort it out credibly.

I do love how this case has split the right: "LAW AND ORDER!!!" vs. "GOV'T OVERREACH!!!!"

 

[Boom_70]

Everything is in degrees in our society; please remember that. Our country was not built on absolutes.

Stealing a box of cigars ($10?) is not acceptable behavior and is to be frowned upon.

But killing that person while he is unarmed and 35 ft away (still more than a room away) so far exceeds the bounds of acceptable behavior by our law enforcement personnel that it should be condemned.

Have 3 beers after work and get pulled over , you're life is over

 

[RickStain]

But killing that person while he is unarmed and 35 ft away (still more than a room away) so far exceeds the bounds of acceptable behavior by our law enforcement personnel that it should be condemned.

And if that's what happened, I hope we have enough proof to get a conviction.

 

[Boom_70]

Everything is in degrees in our society; please remember that. Our country was not built on absolutes.

Stealing a box of cigars ($10?) is not acceptable behavior and is to be frowned upon.

But killing that person while he is unarmed and 35 ft away (still more than a room away) so far exceeds the bounds of acceptable behavior by our law enforcement personnel that it should be condemned.

Kill someone by Drone at 10,000 ft -- perfectly acceptable

 

[JC]

The "strong-armed robbery" involved numerous packs of Swisher Sweets, which sell two packs for 99 cents. We're talking 10 bucks at most.

If you have never heisted 10 bucks worth of stuff from a convenience store, you've lived a cleaner life than I have.

That's pretty weak. I've never stolen a dime from a store (whatchu want, a cookie?) and I assume most people haven't either.

And certainly not pushing around the storekeep.

I like you, LTL, but trying to justify the actions in that convenience store is utter bullcrap.

Boy ... if we throw it open to the group I'd be willing to bet well more than half have lifted that amount.

The pushing around of the guy is something different, but let's not act like this was a crime that ever would have resulted in a felony -- or any charges even. AND it had nothing to do with the stop.

Stealing is acceptable as long as you do it on a small enough scale? Bullshirt.

Whether or not that is relevant to this discussion is another matter. Unfortunately, the police can't seem to get the story straight.

Oh OOP, you never disappoint.

 

[YankeeFan]

More evidence is needed one way or the other before anybody can say he wasn't a gentle giant.

Perhaps he did this all the time and it is a lie. Perhaps that was the first and only time he put his hands on somebody and it is true.

More evidence than those photos are needed.

If you were the guy getting lifted off your feet by him, I don't think you'd need more evidence.

Why do we need to cling to a false narrative, based on comments from his family, who were grieving the death of their son?

They are not unbiased.

The video has no bias.

He is grabbing the little dude by he collar. Then he flings him away, and stands over him in a menacing fashion, while the little guy scurries away.

Lifted off his feet!?! Good grief.

As I said, one incident shouldn't define a person's entire life.

Look at the first picture. He only has one foot on the ground. He's literally lifting him off of his feet.

 

[JayFarrar]

Pretty clear he's stumbling from the contact and not being lifted off his feet.