• Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Welcome to the Pac-10, Lane Kiffin

Stitch said:
Wes Rucker said:
Perhaps Poynter would have had more well-rounded coverage if it hadn't just interviewed one person and watched one 8-minute YouTube clip.

I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy.

We all know you're pissed because Shory supposedly ruined everyone's chance for Kiffin to ope up. Your opinion on the issue is no more valid than mine or anyone else's.

Did I mention my own name there? All I said was well-rounded coverage would ask for the input of others on the situation. Seems like a fair point.

Then again, that's just your opinion on the issue, and it's no more valid than mine or anyone else's.
 
Wes, Did you think about e-mailing Tompkins with the reasons you disagree and seeing if he'll give you some space on there? Or is it not worth getting your name/paper mixed up in it? He's a broadcast guy, so if this is a print vs. broadcast thing, as it has seemed at times on here, he may have his biases.
 
Stitch said:
Wes Rucker said:
Perhaps Poynter would have had more well-rounded coverage if it hadn't just interviewed one person and watched one 8-minute YouTube clip.

I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy.

We all know you're pissed because Shory supposedly ruined everyone's chance for Kiffin to ope up. Your opinion on the issue is no more valid than mine or anyone else's.

Seriously? If someone says something on an issue, and others would have opposing viewpoints, or something that would be valuable to the story, you would just not bother to seek them out?

Do you write a lot of one-interview features and stories?
 
The Big Ragu said:
Wes, Did you think about e-mailing Tompkins with the reasons you disagree and seeing if he'll give you some space on there? Or is it not worth getting your name/paper mixed up in it? He's a broadcast guy, so if this is a print vs. broadcast thing, as it has seemed at times on here, he may have his biases.

I wouldn't be opposed to it. Not the worst idea I've heard, actually. Maybe I will.
 
Wes Rucker said:
The Big Ragu said:
Wes, Did you think about e-mailing Tompkins with the reasons you disagree and seeing if he'll give you some space on there? Or is it not worth getting your name/paper mixed up in it? He's a broadcast guy, so if this is a print vs. broadcast thing, as it has seemed at times on here, he may have his biases.

I wouldn't be opposed to it. Not the worst idea I've heard, actually. Maybe I will.

I've met him. He's a good guy. He'd probably appreciate the perspective.
 
So when being told you are going to get less information, you should:
a) not stand-up to say something so you can at least get some information
b) say something with the risk of not getting any information at all

That is, in essence, what journalists go through everyday. Making deals to get access.

Someone didn't like the deal offered and asked for something else. Then stood their ground when pressed.

It sucks you have to make deals. It really does and it really compromises your position in the future, at least dealing with that same entity, but at the same time, you have competition and they might be willing to deal and if you aren't, well then you get hammered by your bosses because another outlet had the scoop and you didn't.

From what I know of Knoxville and the people I know of who were in the room that night. It was a news director taking the stand. If it had been the TV sports director or a TV reporter on the beat, I don't think the reaction would have been the same, and I certainly don't think people would have noticed if it had been a print guy making the case.
But it was a "tv douchebag" who "doesn't know sports" and who "who doesn't know Kiffin" and "forking TV people" who "all suck" because the "only real journalists are the ones working in print" and not the "pretty-haired douchebag TV forkers."

That being said, I wasn't there and I don't know what I would have done if put in the same position.
 
Stitch said:
Wes Rucker said:
Perhaps Poynter would have had more well-rounded coverage if it hadn't just interviewed one person and watched one 8-minute YouTube clip.

I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy.

We all know you're pissed because Shory supposedly ruined everyone's chance for Kiffin to ope up. Your opinion on the issue is no more valid than mine or anyone else's.

Hondo's opinion is more valid than yours. Do they not feel the need to balance stories where you're from?
 
"Pretty-haired douchebag TV forkers."

Jay clearly hasn't watched the YouTube clip.
 
I have, dude needs some Rogaine or something.

Anyhoo, if Kiffin had said reporters were okay, but no cameras. No newspaper photogs, no TV cameras, no flip cams running. Would anyone here, assuming you are a print side reporter, been okay with that condition as well?
 
Magnum said:
Stitch said:
Wes Rucker said:
Perhaps Poynter would have had more well-rounded coverage if it hadn't just interviewed one person and watched one 8-minute YouTube clip.

I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy.

We all know you're pissed because Shory supposedly ruined everyone's chance for Kiffin to ope up. Your opinion on the issue is no more valid than mine or anyone else's.

Hondo's opinion is more valid than yours. Do they not feel the need to balance stories where you're from?

I can't claim to know how Tompkins went about writing his story. Would I have made some calls to get a different viewpoint? Yes, but wouldn't be afraid to write it up without a differing opinion either. You run with what you have sometimes and follow up on it.
 
JayFarrar said:
I have, dude needs some Rogaine or something.

Anyhoo, if Kiffin had said reporters were okay, but no cameras. No newspaper photogs, no TV cameras, no flip cams running. Would anyone here, assuming you are a print side reporter, been okay with that condition as well?

Not initially. No one is going to say that's OK right off, but if a source - especially one who is the only one who can tell you what you want to know - won't budge, then you have to go another route. No situation is the same. What you don't want to do is blow the whole forking deal based on some false premise of ethics or unfair competition.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top