WHOA! .... Bill Conlin resigns amid child molestation investigation

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Some of the story behind the story from Deadspin, including email exchanges with Conlin Monday:

http://deadspin.com/5870204/

Wow. Conlin did himself no favors with this.

This is just stunning on multiple levels.

I don't know, I'm asking: if you had to choose one outlet to tell your side of a story in a preemptive defense, would this be your move?

Also can't interpret AJ D's role in this. Was he trying to protect him until the story caught fire?

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Evil, not sure why it's so hard to believe there might not be other victims. He had access to the victims 40 years ago. From the sounds of it, that's when he took advantage. Were neighbor kids hanging out with 63-year-old Bill Conlin in 1996?

Do the impulses he had stop? No. Did the actions? They could have.

Should they be looking? Obviously.

Becuase of past actions of other child predators.
If there's one. Ok fine. If there's more than one, in this case four, the odds are pretty good he didn't stop.

You know he has grandkids, right?
And it's not like he's in a bubble. There is still - always- access to kids. Lot of parents out there could give a shirt about their kids.

You want to give him the benefit of the doubt and defy the pattern of behavior that has been established by numerous sex offenders before have at it?

Me... I'll wait til a few weeks and see what shakes out.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Some of the story behind the story from Deadspin, including email exchanges with Conlin Monday:

http://deadspin.com/5870204/

Wow. Conlin did himself no favors with this.

This is just stunning on multiple levels.

I don't know, I'm asking: if you had to choose one outlet to tell your side of a story in a preemptive defense, would this be your move?

Also can't interpret AJ D's role in this. Was he trying to protect him until the story caught fire?

Use Great Moments in Drunken Hookup History to level my defense?
Seems like a no-brainer to me.

 

[bigpern23]

There is, seemingly, a route to a civil lawsuit.

The statute of limitations is two years for personal injury, right? But that's from when you discovered and should have discovered the injury. Not the time of the actual event. This is so that you can't, for example, not be able to sue for something like mesotheleoma that takes decades to emerge.

If someone can plausibly say they were diagnosed in the last two years with some sort of mental illness related to the sexual abuse as a child ... BAM! It can be traced, I'd guess, to a trigger like a child or grandchild becoming the age that the person was when they were victimized.

As you said, it's from the time of discovery of the injury ... the injury happened when they were kids. There may have been lingering effects years later, but the injury occurred when they were children.

 

[Dick Whitman]

There is, seemingly, a route to a civil lawsuit.

The statute of limitations is two years for personal injury, right? But that's from when you discovered and should have discovered the injury. Not the time of the actual event. This is so that you can't, for example, not be able to sue for something like mesotheleoma that takes decades to emerge.

If someone can plausibly say they were diagnosed in the last two years with some sort of mental illness related to the sexual abuse as a child ... BAM! It can be traced, I'd guess, to a trigger like a child or grandchild becoming the age that the person was when they were victimized.

As you said, it's from the time of discovery of the injury ... the injury happened when they were kids. There may have been lingering effects years later, but the injury occurred when they were children.

No. The injury is the mental anguish. That's what they would be suing for. Not the physical injury. There's little damage to even support a lawsuit if it were physical damage. The precipitating event happened when they were children. The discovery of the damage - mental anguish/illness/emotional trauma - came years later. That's when the personal injury clock begins. Should be no different than asbestos.

 

[bigpern23]

Wrong, deck. A case like mesothelioma is protected because the victim may not have been aware they were exposed to asbestos.

These victims were aware they were sexually assaulted and they were aware of the injury, as evidenced by them crying as they were telling their parents. They knew something bad happened to them. They didn't "discover" the injury recently. The assaults took place decades ago and they've been dealing with the anguish of them ever since.

Now, if a doctor was touching them inappropriately and told them it was normal and they didn't discover until 10 years later that what he was doing was not normal, then you'd have a case because the defendant didn't discover the injury until later on.

I think a judge would throw out this case pretty quickly if you tried to argue on those grounds.

 

[mythirdalt]

[DR is worse imo. There is constant badgering by working girls and their pimps in some areas. There are even some resorts aimed at men where the women are brought in and you pick and choose for the week.

I have spent a fair amount of time working in the Caribbean and it was an aspect of life there that always made me sad.

Seems about 99 percent likely that Conlin was using his DR getaway to hook up with children. It gets too difficult here, so he buys a vacation home where it's much easier.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Wrong, deck. A case like mesothelioma is protected because the victim may not have been aware they were exposed to asbestos.

These victims were aware they were sexually assaulted and they were aware of the injury, as evidenced by them crying as they were telling their parents. They knew something bad happened to them. They didn't "discover" the injury recently. The assaults took place decades ago and they've been dealing with the anguish of them ever since.

Now, if a doctor was touching them inappropriately and told them it was normal and they didn't discover until 10 years later that what he was doing was not normal, then you'd have a case because the defendant didn't discover the injury until later on.

I think a judge would throw out this case pretty quickly if you tried to argue on those grounds.

Right, right.

I was just trying to think of some loophole they could possibly exploit, just on the text of the statute. Wonder if there is at least one state that has gone my way with it. "My way" meaning what I proposed. I certainly wouldn't commit myself to supporting that interpretation.

 

[Azrael]

New accuser:

www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20111221_Another_woman_comes_forward_over_abuse_by_Bill_Conlin.html?cmpid=125219969

 

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Another woman comes forward:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20111221_Another_woman_comes_forward_over_abuse_by_Bill_Conlin.html?cmpid=125219969

 

[Ace]

Some of the story behind the story from Deadspin, including email exchanges with Conlin Monday:

http://deadspin.com/5870204/

Wow. Conlin did himself no favors with this.

This is just stunning on multiple levels.

I don't know, I'm asking: if you had to choose one outlet to tell your side of a story in a preemptive defense, would this be your move?

Also can't interpret AJ D's role in this. Was he trying to protect him until the story caught fire?

I thought AJ came across worse in that than Conlin. It's like he has no grasp of what it means to be a journalist.

 

[mythirdalt]

Some of the story behind the story from Deadspin, including email exchanges with Conlin Monday:

http://deadspin.com/5870204/

Wow. Conlin did himself no favors with this.

This is just stunning on multiple levels.

I don't know, I'm asking: if you had to choose one outlet to tell your side of a story in a preemptive defense, would this be your move?

Also can't interpret AJ D's role in this. Was he trying to protect him until the story caught fire?

I thought AJ came across worse in that than Conlin. It's like he has no grasp of what it means to be a journalist.

He's the editor of Gawker, what do you expect? Different rules, that's just how it is now, and he's done well doing his thing.