2024 college baseball/softball thread

[TigerVols]

Shouldn't we have a 2025 thread by now?

 

[micropolitan guy]

Very strange case indeed. UCLA locked out of own stadium.

Judge orders UCLA's stadium on VA grounds locked down – NBC Los Angeles

It's not "UCLA's own stadium." They rent the land from the VA, a ways off-campus. This has been an issue for quite some time. The Bruins don't own it, so they haven't sunk real money into improving it. That's why one of the top programs on the West Coast (and in the nation not that long ago) plays at a glorified high school facility.

 

[ChrisLong]

It's not "UCLA's own stadium." They rent the land from the VA, a ways off-campus. This has been an issue for quite some time. The Bruins don't own it, so they haven't sunk real money into improving it. That's why one of the top programs on the West Coast (and in the nation not that long ago) plays at a glorified high school facility.

You're way off on UCLA not sinking money into it to improve it. They have been there almost forever. I played American Legion ball on that field in 1970 when it was awful. The resident PTSD patients used to come out and cheer and jeer us. There was a dank green wooden two-story "clubhouse" in the right field corner that was held together with spider webs and termite shirt. Wooden, splintery bleachers. Look at the place now. Small capacity, but regular seating, a decent press box, batting cages behind the right field fence. The clubhouses are new and the green building is gone. It probably took 15 minutes to remove it. They have played host super regionals and they have a pretty strong alumni base.

 

[micropolitan guy]

You're way off on UCLA not sinking money into it to improve it. They have been there almost forever. I played American Legion ball on that field in 1970 when it was awful. The resident PTSD patients used to come out and cheer and jeer us. There was a dank green wooden two-story "clubhouse" in the right field corner that was held together with spider webs and termite shirt. Wooden, splintery bleachers. Look at the place now. Small capacity, but regular seating, a decent press box, batting cages behind the right field fence. The clubhouses are new and the green building is gone. It probably took 15 minutes to remove it. They have played host super regionals and they have a pretty strong alumni base.

Compared to the baseball facilities of its former peers - the Arizona schools, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Oregon, even Utah - Jackie Robinson Stadium was a substandard facility, on par with Evans Diamond at Cal. Visiting radio did not even have a spot in the press box.

 

[ChrisLong]

Compared to the baseball facilities of its former peers - the Arizona schools, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Oregon, even Utah - Jackie Robinson Stadium was a substandard facility, on par with Evans Diamond at Cal. Visiting radio did not even have a spot in the press box.

If something is good, something else has to be either better or not as good. UCLA's facility -- originally known as Sawtelle Field -- might not be as good as some others, but it is fine. Being not quite as good as ASU doesn't deserve a rip from you. Oh, no radio spot. Shut down the program.
There is no where else to build a field for UCLA. Sawtelle is only a couple of miles from campus. All-Americans and future MLB All-Stars thought it was good enough for them. But no radio booth? Oh man, what a tragedy.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Never said it was a tragedy. But the fact the press box didn't even have space for a visiting radio booth - pretty much a given at any press box in Division I athletics, much less a P4 program with a national championship to its credit - is notable.

Facts are facts. It was a substandard facility compared to almost all of UCLA's conference peers, and for a program of their stature. In the 26 seasons since the North-South consolidation (1999-2024) UCLA won only three outright championships and shared another. I'm sure its facilities (or lack thereof) negatively impacted its recruiting. Other programs improved their facilities (Oregon State, ASU, Arizona, Washington, Stanford) and won league titles, national titles and CWS berths, while UCLA has sort of languished since 2013.

I suspect some of those great players at UCLA - and yes, there were many - chose to play there because UCLA is a great school, despite the facility. And I'm sure had UCLA owned the land outright, they would have invested a lot more money in it and the stadium would be considerably nicer. I'm sure if you asked John Savage he'd say "fine" is OK but much rather have something nicer, like the teams he played against.

I hope they get the problem with the VA resolved so they can continue to play there. I am also interested in seeing how much of a priority baseball remains there, given that their level of competition has declined significantly with the move to the Big Ten.

 

[HanSenSE]

 

[Batman]

Mississippi State baseball play-by-play man Jim Ellis is retiring after 46 years.

Jim Ellis Retires As Voice Of The Diamond Dawgs - Mississippi State

 

[dixiehack]

I'm glad he got to be behind the mic when State finally broke through to win the CWS.

Trying to remember if he had a partner who called the middle innings. If so I'd assume that guy would get the job but if so you'd think they'd have already said so. This is pretty short notice to have someone with broadcasting chops move to the Golden Triangle, especially if they aren't getting the football job as well.

 

[Batman]

They just got a new football and basketball guy a few years ago when Ellis stopped doing those sports, so I doubt those jobs are opening up. Not sure if Neil Price will also do baseball or they'll find someone else. Baseball is a big enough deal at Mississippi State that it should be a pretty plum gig for somebody.

 

[brn623cl]

It was talked about some on the college football threads, but this article dives into the JUCO eligibilty ruling influence on baseball at multiple levels from college on up.

 

[dixiehack]

I've long thought that kids with legitimate pro potential who aren't signing out of high school should go juco, even if they get solid offers elsewhere. Why not create a situation where you can potentially be drafted after any of your college seasons instead of giving that leverage up for two years?