2025 NFL offseason thread

[outofplace]

I honestly believe I didn't see enough Pickett during his highly successful final season at Pitt. Because when he was handed the keys to the Steelers' car, all I could think was, what had he done to deserve this?

He had that one big season at Pitt, then the Steelers foolishly spent money on Mitchell Trubisky to start ahead of him in 2022. That didn't last long. Pickett showed flashes. There was talk of "Fourth-Quarter Kenny" because he would come through with a big drive late in games when he had been quiet for three quarters. Was that because he wasn't good or because Tomlin held the reins too tight until the game was on the line?

 

[outofplace]

I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to the possibility of the "maybe the Steelers should part ways with Tomlin" discourse starting eight months earlier this year.

For a large percentage of the fan base, it has been a year-round issue for a long time. I first started writing about the need to move on in 2018. I softened a bit after seeing him drag bad teams to decent seasons a few times, but most fans of the team are getting tired of watching those reruns.

 

[JC]

Geno wasn't going to take them where they want to go.

He's better than people give him credit for and better than anyone the will have now.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

For a large percentage of the fan base, it has been a year-round issue for a long time. I first started writing about the need to move on in 2018. I softened a bit after seeing him drag bad teams to decent seasons a few times, but most fans of the team are getting tired of watching those reruns.

I think there are Pats' fans who can tell Steelers fans that replacing a coaching legend ain't easy and can go very wrong.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

He's better than people give him credit for and better than anyone the will have now.

Exactly. Geno is probably a top 15 QB in the league. He did well playing behind a horrendous line last year. Darnold is going to get murdered playing in Seattle.

 

[outofplace]

He's better than people give him credit for and better than anyone the will have now.

Sure, but given that he cost the Raiders a pick early in the third, he probably would have cost the Steelers a second-round pick and he's a one-year rental.

 

[outofplace]

I think there are Pats' fans who can tell Steelers fans that replacing a coaching legend ain't easy and can go very wrong.

I think most of the fan base would laugh at referring to Tomlin as a legend. Then again, most of the fan base is quite spoiled.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

I think most of the fan base would laugh at referring to Tomlin as a legend. Then again, most of the fan base is quite spoiled.

That was even more of a problem with the Pats' fan base. Still is.

 

[Dog8Cats]

He was close a lot his third year at PSU, but never got any sacks. Believe he was near the top of the Big Ten in pressures that year for whatever that's worth. He's taken some time to come around in Baltimore, but they obviously thought enough of him to pick up his fifth-year option and that was before his 10-sack season this year. I'm sure 13 sacks through the first three seasons and the $13.2 million cap number for 2025 (or about $2 million more than they paid him him his first four seasons combined) helped with the decision.

I think evaluators and scouts value pressures more than sacks. I think whether a quarterback is sacked can sometimes be unrelated to the fact the defender was good enough to pressure him. There was an NFL free agent a few years ago who capitalized on having one season with a lot of sacks. What the signing team didn't care to weigh is that he got a sack almost every time he got a pressure (which wasn't all that often) - and that's not necessarily repeatable.

 

[DanielSimpsonDay]

That was even more of a problem with the Pats' fan base. Still is.

"Dumb, stupid Boston fans...they STUPID!"

-Mo Vaughn

 

[outofplace]

That was even more of a problem with the Pats' fan base. Still is.

I get that, but imagine your team has had only three head coaches since 1969 and the first two are in the Hall of Fame. There is a part of the fan base that never warmed up to Tomlin, not even after they won a Super Bowl with him in 2008.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

I get that, but imagine your team has had only three head coaches since 1969 and the first two are in the Hall of Fame. There is a part of the fan base that never warmed up to Tomlin, not even after they won a Super Bowl with him in 2008.

Gosh, I wonder what it could be?