Does the election spell the end of FOX News dominance

[heyabbott]

A few quick points...

-- People were asking if Rush Limbaugh was done when Clinton left office, since he wouldn't have anyone to rail against anymore. Fox - and Rush - will benefit from the election, if anything.

Limbaugh has been as relevant to national poltics as Imus since Clinton left. Both have been marginalized by their inclusion in the establishment. Between Limbaugh's drug abuse, expensive tastes and erectile disfunction, he's become a parody of right wing talk.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

A few quick points...

-- People were asking if Rush Limbaugh was done when Clinton left office, since he wouldn't have anyone to rail against anymore. Fox - and Rush - will benefit from the election, if anything.

Limbaugh has been as relevant to national poltics as Imus since Clinton left. Both have been marginalized by their inclusion in the establishment. Between Limbaugh's drug abuse, expensive tastes and erectile disfunction, he's become a parody of right wing talk.

And the point is, people were asking the exact same question after a good election for the GOP.

By the way, when was Rush not a parody of right-wing talk?

 

[Smallpotatoes]

-- I don't like the deliberate lean of Fox much, but I don't find it nearly as offense as the occasional propaganda piece CNN airs in Lou Dobbs' personal battle against Latinos. The reports on illegal immigration running on CNN these days twist the facts outrageously to support the crusade.

I just wish Lou Dobbs would give that subject a rest for one forking night.

 

[Tyler Durden]

You know who I like? Geraldo. Now there's a guy who knows how to get a story. And as mustaches go, really, top notch.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

A few quick points...

-- People were asking if Rush Limbaugh was done when Clinton left office, since he wouldn't have anyone to rail against anymore. Fox - and Rush - will benefit from the election, if anything.

Limbaugh has been as relevant to national poltics as Imus since Clinton left. Both have been marginalized by their inclusion in the establishment. Between Limbaugh's drug abuse, expensive tastes and erectile disfunction, he's become a parody of right wing talk.

And the point is, people were asking the exact same question after a good election for the GOP.

By the way, when was Rush not a parody of right-wing talk?

If so, who's the serious right-wing talker?
(This might be fun.)

 

[doctor x]

So where's the love for Air America after the Dems sweep both houses? Has no one connected the dots?

 

[JackS]

-- I don't get why everyone gets so caught up in the influence of Fox because it beats CNN and MSNBC in the ratings. It's a little like pretending Lehigh is an unstoppable football power because it dominates the Patriot League. NO ONE is watching these networks. You can add the total ratings from Fox, CNN, CNN Headline, MSNBC, the C-Spans, and CNBC, and you still have a tiny fraction of the number watching Nickelodeon at any given time.

Let's keep the hyperbole to a minimum. First of all, "tiny fraction" isn't even close to true, especially in prime time. Secondly, I don't think you have too many voters influenced by Sponge Bob.

I do agree with your overarching point that the cable newsers' influence is exaggerated, but you exaggerated too far in the other direction to try to make your point.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

A few quick points...

-- People were asking if Rush Limbaugh was done when Clinton left office, since he wouldn't have anyone to rail against anymore. Fox - and Rush - will benefit from the election, if anything.

Limbaugh has been as relevant to national poltics as Imus since Clinton left. Both have been marginalized by their inclusion in the establishment. Between Limbaugh's drug abuse, expensive tastes and erectile disfunction, he's become a parody of right wing talk.

And the point is, people were asking the exact same question after a good election for the GOP.

By the way, when was Rush not a parody of right-wing talk?

If so, who's the serious right-wing talker?
(This might be fun.)

Michael Savage likes to say he is.

 

[cortez]

Are all the intelligent right-wingers on bye week?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

They all LIKE to say it. That's half the shtick. And it keeps folks from finding out that they're really just failed DJs (Limbaughs) or crank patent-medicine salesmen (Savage), or knee-jerk apparatchik-ettes (The various blondes.)
It's also why O'Reilly occasionally throws out the info that he actually did go to Harvard.

 

[Scribe4264]

-- I don't get why everyone gets so caught up in the influence of Fox because it beats CNN and MSNBC in the ratings. It's a little like pretending Lehigh is an unstoppable football power because it dominates the Patriot League. NO ONE is watching these networks. You can add the total ratings from Fox, CNN, CNN Headline, MSNBC, the C-Spans, and CNBC, and you still have a tiny fraction of the number watching Nickelodeon at any given time.

Let's keep the hyperbole to a minimum. First of all, "tiny fraction" isn't even close to true, especially in prime time. Secondly, I don't think you have too many voters influenced by Sponge Bob.

I do agree with your overarching point that the cable newsers' influence is exaggerated, but you exaggerated too far in the other direction to try to make your point.

Yeah, we've told you a million times to stop exagerating!!!!!

 

[PCLoadLetter]

-- I don't get why everyone gets so caught up in the influence of Fox because it beats CNN and MSNBC in the ratings. It's a little like pretending Lehigh is an unstoppable football power because it dominates the Patriot League. NO ONE is watching these networks. You can add the total ratings from Fox, CNN, CNN Headline, MSNBC, the C-Spans, and CNBC, and you still have a tiny fraction of the number watching Nickelodeon at any given time.

Let's keep the hyperbole to a minimum. First of all, "tiny fraction" isn't even close to true, especially in prime time. Secondly, I don't think you have too many voters influenced by Sponge Bob.

I do agree with your overarching point that the cable newsers' influence is exaggerated, but you exaggerated too far in the other direction to try to make your point.

Really?

Week of March 3, 2003 -- the war in Iraq is just about to start, so one can assume news viewership is, if anything, higher than normal.

Average viewers throughout the day:

Nickelodeon: 504,000
TV Guide Channel: 10,000
Fox News Channel: 8,000

Now, there are many ways to examine the numbers, and they're much more complimentary to Fox and the other news channels if you focus on prime time and lower the bar for "viewership." But I think "tiny fraction" seems pretty fair.