Gregg Doyel suspended

[Octave]

Maybe not everything has to be a forkin joke.

 

[Deskgrunt50]

OutKick's Dan Dakich sounds off on columnist's discipline after odd Caitlin Clark interactions (msn.com)

Not sure where I fall on Doyel, but Dan Dakich can go fork himself and keep doing so for eternity. An absolute piece of shirt.

 

[wheels89]

His making the heart at her at first was recognition and acknowledgement of something that she always does, and, indeed, turned out to be a conversation starter that resulted in an explanation from Clark that no one otherwise would have had or known. We probably have all just assumed previously that she was doing that, just kind of generically, to the crowds/fans.

Unfortunately, the "conversation" only went downhill from there from a public press-conference perspective.

I think there was also a question he had to the coach which hit a slightly on the cringe scale. Also immediately after the press conference, when people were probably going "WTF" to him, he immediately went into column promoting mode, which didn't help.
It was almost, "do you really understand what you did here?" and he didn't get it.

 

[playthrough]

I think it was more than Doyel trying to get Clark to "be real." He said they would get along fine if she hearted him. That makes it sound like if the 22-year-old rookie Clark kotows to what Doyel - in his mid-40s, maybe? - wants, then she and her team will receive more, and positive, coverage from him. It was a totally creepy and unethical move on his part.

Mid-50s. Which is why I keep coming back to wondering why he's still there. Unfortunately I guess he's off suspension next week, which means he'll cover the Indy 500 and he knows nothing about racing. Gotta keep him away from Katherine Legge, too.

 

[jr/shotglass]

Maybe not everything has to be a forkin joke.

Well, there's that. There's also you don't have to get your panties in a bunch at the drop of a hat. Other side of the same coin.

 

[BurnsWhenIPee]

I think it was more than Doyel trying to get Clark to "be real." He said they would get along fine if she hearted him. That makes it sound like if the 22-year-old rookie Clark kotows to what Doyel - in his mid-40s, maybe? - wants, then she and her team will receive more, and positive, coverage from him. It was a totally creepy and unethical move on his part.

Could be - but if he's going to be this creepy and unethical, and do it in an introductory press conference with one of the biggest names in all of sports right now and tons of people watching and in attendance, then they needed to fire him immediately. That's "if he does this in public with everybody watching, what does he do in private when no one's watching?" stuff.

 

[jr/shotglass]

Don't make me defend Gregg Doyel, who makes my skin crawl. But that's inherently unfair.

You judge the person on the actions he's taking at the present. You don't extrapolate scenarios based on what you think he might be doing when you aren't watching.

 

[BurnsWhenIPee]

I was answering Flip's scenario, where he was saying if Clark kowtowed to Doyle's wants, she and her team would receive more and more positive coverage from him.

If you believe that's true, and he'd be so bold that he'd do it when *everyone* is watching, then I think an employer should definitely be concerned with what may happen in other times.

 

[jr/shotglass]

I was answering Flip's scenario, where he was saying if Clark kowtowed to Doyle's wants, she and her team would receive more and more positive coverage from him.

If you believe that's true, and he'd be so bold that he'd do it when *everyone* is watching, then I think an employer should definitely be concerned with what may happen in other times.

BWIP, I understand exactly what you're saying. You said he should be fired immediately, and that it's OK for it to be based on imagined happenings. If he should be fired just for the moment he gave Clark the "heart," that's one thing. What you're saying is another.

 

[BurnsWhenIPee]

No, not fired immediately based on what *could* happen.

If what Flip surmised is what his actual motivations are, then yes, fire him for that immediately.

 

[Octave]

Well, there's that. There's also you don't have to get your panties in a bunch at the drop of a hat. Other side of the same coin.

I mean this courteously, I don't give enough of a fork to argue about it. If Clark was offended then that is her right to be. He seems contrite. I think I can take the silly English judge wig off.

 

[Twirling Time]

What else you got in Indianapolis between the 500 and opening of fall camp for the Colts, Hooisers and Boilermakers? Wouldn't adding someone with the star power of Clark mean more coverage? And if your top gun is holstered ...'

Do they cover Notre Dame as well, or do they cede that to Chicago media and NBC?