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Penn State scorn versus Michigan State scorn

From Rodger Sherman's story in The Ringer:
In many ways, this story brings to mind the Jerry Sandusky investigation at Penn State. There are stunning similarities between the two: Both tell the tale of prominent American universities looking the other way when confronted with disturbing accounts about a faculty member, with the schools seeking to protect their athletic hierarchy rather than stopping a pattern of abuse. But there's a significant difference. In Sandusky's case, he was the celebrity, the man whose unique talents as a football coach had helped bring Penn State decades of success and won him the undiscerning loyalty of administration members. In Nassar's case, the athletes were the unique talents. He worked with students who won competitions for Michigan State, and with Olympians who brought glory to America, starred in prime-time coverage, and populated magazine covers. Nassar was just a behind-the-scenes doctor. His job was to protect athletes, and yet Michigan State and USAG opted to protect him instead.
 
Larry Nassar is an astonishing monster who used his title and reputation to pretend that his sexual abuse was actually some sort of medical practice. Parents were in the room at times when he abused these girls. I could make the argument that he's worse than Sandusky, really, to the extent there are degrees among such hideous men; Nassar reminds me of the Dr. Miranda character from Death and the Maiden.

Nassar's case is simultaneously competing with a president who's absolutely an awful human being and every other MeToo case out there. Aziz Ansari is a bigger story than Larry Nassar. Shouldn't be, but it is.

When Sandusky broke, in early November 2011, no election, it immediately shifted to Paterno, the legendary coach. And for whatever people thought of the Paterno connection to Sandusky - and I'm not apologist - Joe Paterno has a wider reputation as a villain than Larry Nassar. And that's kind of sad.

These gymnasts are some of the finest athletes in the world, and Simone Biles is one of best athletes of all time, anywhere, any day. And she was assaulted by a pedophile. It's a big story that's somehow been whiffed on by many news outlets. Only now is ESPN really getting it.

Wetzel, to his credit, has been more in depth.
 
Larry Nassar is an astonishing monster who used his title and reputation to pretend that his sexual abuse was actually some sort of medical practice. Parents were in the room at times when he abused these girls. I could make the argument that he's worse than Sandusky, really, to the extent there are degrees among such hideous men; Nassar reminds me of the Dr. Miranda character from Death and the Maiden.

Nassar's case is simultaneously competing with a president who's absolutely an awful human being and every other MeToo case out there. Aziz Ansari is a bigger story than Larry Nassar. Shouldn't be, but it is.

When Sandusky broke, in early November 2011, no election, it immediately shifted to Paterno, the legendary coach. And for whatever people thought of the Paterno connection to Sandusky - and I'm not apologist - Joe Paterno has a wider reputation as a villain than Larry Nassar. And that's kind of sad.

These gymnasts are some of the finest athletes in the world, and Simone Biles is one of best athletes of all time, anywhere, any day. And she was assaulted by a pedophile. It's a big story that's somehow been whiffed on by many news outlets. Only now is ESPN really getting it.

Wetzel, to his credit, has been more in depth.

On the using it as some sort of medical practice issue I am flabbergasted that he got away with that for freaking decades. So many stories of doctors, trainers and other medical personnel saying, yep, that's a legit technique.

My wife is a physician (and one whose primary patients are now college students) and the little I know about what she goes through on a daily basis and her training and everything else that should not fly in any way. She personally would stop being a doctor before she'd respond to someone that this was legitimate way of practicing medicine, and that's stating it very lightly. I mean, women and girls were talking about back pain or hamstrings but we need to get privates involved? How in the world do people get away with stuff for so long and educated people in position of trust and power let them? I can't wrap my head around it.

The Detroit News story today said 12 more were abused after someone really, truly tried to take him down in 2014 and was basically ignored by authorities and they expect that that number is higher. I mean, just how?
 
It wasn't just that Paterno was high-profile. He and his supporters had cultivated this image of a coach and a program that did things the right way. They were the good guys with no names on their jerseys. Think of how their battle with Miami for the national title in the 1987 Fiesta Bowl was played in the media.

That was 98.4 percent on Miami.

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I am just stepping back. Women's gymnastics, the frigging crown jewel of the Summer Olympics - this guy sexually assaulted practically every one of Team USA! With cover everywhere he needed it.

MSU and USA gymnastics should be blown to smithereens! It is crazy how this is practically flown under the radar.
 
That was 98.4 percent on Miami.

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I must have been asleep when Miami made Penn State call it's program "The Grand Experiment" and "Success with Honor" and then had Paterno say to a reporter who asked about retirement, "and leave college football to the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers of the world?"

Penn State represented to a lot of people the good in college football at that time as much as Miami represented what was bad.
 
That's why I said 98.4 percent. The other 1.6 percent was Penn State. They played the white knight, and everyone let them get away with it. Happened before, has happened since and will always happen.

But I don't remember too many "good vs. evil" stories from Oklahoma-Penn State the year before. It was Miami that got the media in a lather.
 
I must have been asleep when Miami made Penn State call it's program "The Grand Experiment" and "Success with Honor" and then had Paterno say to a reporter who asked about retirement, "and leave college football to the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers of the world?"

Penn State represented to a lot of people the good in college football at that time as much as Miami represented what was bad.

Totally agree PSU set itself up for the blowback.
 
Miami's greatest sin was breaking the stranglehold that programs like Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Texas, Nebraska, Alabama, and USC had on the sport. Miami's greatest sin was not being a blue blood.
 

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