Rewriting, Washing, Scrubbing American Culture

[Azrael]

Hypocrite referred to one poster who posted a derogatory term against Asians 10 times in recent years then shirt on my rug for doing the same thing.



Can you show me the exact language where I asked why he can and I can't?

It's inherent in your opening post.

The Full Metal Jacket chat yesterday was interesting, led to other examples of what's not allowed anymore in America in terms of reciting lines from movies, TV shows, books, songs, playground yin-yang.

So how far are we going to take it as a country in terms of editing pop culture and making sure no one gets offended from here to kingdom come?

Here's the Flaunt link from yesterday re: me long you long time: "Me love you long time" Sticks Around For A Really Long Time

How would you edit what has always been considered a classic scene such as this?

Should America edit out all of the harmful words, thoughts, ideas, dialogue, imagery from pop culture?

Is it even possible on a grand scale?

 

[Azrael]

The cultural right has been criticized and analyzed down to the atom. As it well it should be. But it has been.

To single out the Cultural Left on this thread - as you've done - without some reference on your part to the ongoing and actual censorship of the Cultural Right is rhetorical sleight-of-hand.

 

[Alma]

Having lost it, like night follows day, comes the assertion that the entire culture is collapsing.

No. The entire culture is not collapsing - at least to me.

The new cultural left is different than it used to be. Less anarchic, far more buttoned-up. Devout, sincere, religious people who 35-40 years ago would have fit snugly inside a conservative, churchy framework - these are the kinds of people somewhat easily offended, if I'm honest - have rejected a conservative, churchy framework because the conservative and churchy framework has become synonymous with mean and judgmental, and have migrated toward a left that had long been anti-establishment and free-wheeling. And those cultural newcomers have changed and will further change the left.

 

[Songbird]

It's inherent in your opening post.

No, that's you (or anyone) ascribing inherence.

I can ascribe that you're racist after you said you love an old book that uses the word 214 times; but I don't think that's the case.

Even the NYT wrote that the word being replaced with softer language in modern versions is a disservice.

It was thru that basic lens that I asked if Spike's scene (or questionable pop culture as a whole) should be cleansed the same way.

 

[Alma]

To single out the Cultural Left on this thread - as you've done - without some reference on your part to the ongoing and actual censorship of the Cultural Right is rhetorical sleight-of-hand.

No, it isn't. One does not have to provide a "cultural right" disclaimer, well, in any case, but particularly not in a thread that's not about an encounter with the cultural right.

And, at any rate, I am not a member of the old cultural right - I rolled my eyes at Tipper Gore and the fire-and-brimstone televangelists - or certainly the new cultural right, personified by Glenn Beck breaking down in tears or the embarrassing Ben Shapiro review of a Barbie movie directed by someone far smarter than he is.

I am saying that the fallout of Trump - and the way social media amplified grievance and apocalypse - has moved the cultural left away from the middle finger to the establishment. The new left is engaged in syncretism that will rival the strains of "American Christianity" that hurt the church. (And America.)

 

[Songbird]

syncretism

Only because I don't know what that means ...

noun

1. 1.
   the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought.
   "interfaith dialogue can easily slip into syncretism"
   
   
2. 2.
   LINGUISTICS
   the merging of different inflectional varieties of a word during the development of a language.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Hypocrite referred to one poster who posted a derogatory term against Asians 10 times in recent years then shirt on my rug for doing the same thing.



Can you show me the exact language where I asked why he can and I can't?

Nah, you did something totally different and are still whining that you can't directly denigrate Vietnamese women without someone calling you out. Created an entire thread in dismay.

 

[Songbird]

Nah, you did something totally different and are still whining that you can't directly denigrate Vietnamese women without someone calling you out. Created an entire thread in dismay.

Totes.

 

[Spartan Squad]

Hypocrite referred to one poster who posted a derogatory term against Asians 10 times in recent years then shirt on my rug for doing the same thing.



Can you show me the exact language where I asked why he can and I can't?

So because one person uses a phrase, that gives you a free pass to be racist? You are literally wanting to be racist and think you can't be called a racist because of other phrases.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

The argument seems to be, Why can't I be as racist as that guy??

 

[Songbird]

So because one person uses a phrase, that gives you a free pass to be racist? You are literally wanting to be racist and think you can't be called a racist because of other phrases.

Totes. I used the line without thinking. It was a denigrating line in 1987 just as it is in 2023. I own that.

 

[Azrael]

No, it isn't.

Of course it is. It's the textbook definition of misdirection.

You're in here banging the pots and pans for the LEFTIST CULTURAL REVOLUTION THAT NEVER QUITE ARRIVES, IN WHICH ALL THE OLDS AND CLUELESS BOURGEOISIE WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEIR HOMES AND SENT INTO THE COUNTRYSIDE FOR RE-EDUCATION.

While the right is actually pulling books off the shelves; closing libraries; and heaving wrong-thinking academics off the parapets.

What's funniest is that you're the one who introduced the phrase rhetorical sleight-of-hand to the thread.