Running MCU thread

[bigpern23]

That makes sense, especially when you see Disney doing it elsewhere. They made all those announcements of upcoming projects but held off on one that was in the post-credits scene at the end of the season finale of The Mandalorian. Those other familiar characters who showed up in that episode show that Disney can pull off a surprise.

There have been rumors of those characters popping up in Disney+ series or the upcoming movies. A lot depends on how they want to handle it. Were mutants already present in the MCU? Do they come in from an alternate universe? Do they turn the House of M and Decimation storylines from the comics on their ear and have Wanda create them?

I'm guessing they go for something a little less batship and just start dropping them into different Disney+ series and movies. Maybe Ororo Monroe shows up in Black Panther 2, perhaps just a cameo in a funeral scene for T'Challa. Perhaps she ends up being a larger part of the plot. I'm guessing Falcon and the Winter Soldier is too soon for Wolverine, though I could see it if they mine some of his history with Captain America. WandaVision seems to open up some possibilities as well.

I'll give it a shot because it's the MCU, but WandaVision looks like a steaming pile of crap.

 

[outofplace]

I'll give it a shot because it's the MCU, but WandaVision looks like a steaming pile of crap.

It looks weird, but I'm giving it a shot for the same reason. I'm hoping they don't spend too much time with the sitcom stuff, that it is just a red herring leading up to more of a mystery/action story. I buy into the speculation that Kathryn Hahn's character, Agness, is actually Agatha Harkness, which would tie more into the magical parts of Wanda's character.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

I'll give it a shot because it's the MCU, but WandaVision looks like a steaming pile of crap.

WandaVision is going to have a big swerve right in the middle of its run that's going to completely turn the series on its ear.

 

[sgreenwell]

WandaVision is going to have a big swerve right in the middle of its run that's going to completely turn the series on its ear.

Yeah - I kind of ashume that WandaVision, if anything, is going to be the Mr. Robot of the Marvel universe. Given all of the weird ship she's done in the comics, there are tons of repercussions that she could have on the Marvel cinematic universe at large, from serving as a catalyst for mutants to simply reintroducing the infinity stones in some way to new people.

 

[outofplace]

Yeah - I kind of ashume that WandaVision, if anything, is going to be the Mr. Robot of the Marvel universe. Given all of the weird ship she's done in the comics, there are tons of repercussions that she could have on the Marvel cinematic universe at large, from serving as a catalyst for mutants to simply reintroducing the infinity stones in some way to new people.

That's the other reason I'm going to end up watching the entire series. I think it is going to have a big impact on the overall MCU storyline going forward. It will definitely set up Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. I'm guessing it will affect the upcoming Spider-Man sequel as well since that seems like it is going to be an MCU take on Spider-Verse.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Yeah - I kind of ashume that WandaVision, if anything, is going to be the Mr. Robot of the Marvel universe. Given all of the weird ship she's done in the comics, there are tons of repercussions that she could have on the Marvel cinematic universe at large, from serving as a catalyst for mutants to simply reintroducing the infinity stones in some way to new people.

When I think of how to introduce mutants and the X-Men to the MCU, I go back not to the original version but the version that was in Ultimate Marvel (the reboot of clashic titles for a new, younger audience).

Spoiler: Ultimate X-Men and maybe the MCU

In Ultimate Marvel, one of the key plot points was that mutants popping up everywhere didn't spontaneously happen; there were a tiny number but they mostly faded into the general population. After Captain America was lost in a glacier, the U.S., NATO and S.H.I.E.L.D. were trying very hard to recreate that program but of course had lost the formula and the scientist. They started playing with DNA from some soldiers — a hairy Basket from Canada named James Howlett, a black man from the United States, and another American soldier named Fisk.

Wolverine, Nick Fury and the Kingpin's grandfather.

Magneto wasn't a concentration camp survivor; his parents were scientists at the Weapon X facility in the far Canadian north. Related experiments later got them the Fantastic Four and the Hulk. Everything revolved around trying to recreate the super-soldier formula with Wolverine's blood.

That would tie in with some previous themes we've seen in the MCU — Nick Fury's secrets have secrets, after all, and nobody really knows what SHIELD is up to (including SHIELD).

 

[Splendid Splinter]

EDIT: just saw this.:



who knows.

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

Im really looking forward to Wanda Vision....the early reviews are good and I think we will be pleasantly surprised. The early promos are upbeat and fun. No way that lasts. Not with her character history.

 

[outofplace]

Im really looking forward to Wanda Vision....the early reviews are good and I think we will be pleasantly surprised. The early promos are upbeat and fun. No way that lasts. Not with her character history.

Oh, it is going to go sideways. The only question is how long they play with the sitcom gimmick first.

 

[Scout]

Watched the first two and then read some breakdowns.

There are so many potential villains they are Easter Egging that it's a total mind fork, which is cool.

Google Avengers 238... 8/23

 

[outofplace]

We also watched the first two episodes tonight. They were weird and a bit slow. I hope we get a little more of the real story soon, rather than just the tiny hints.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Well, yeah but …

Spoiler: "Endgame, WandaVision"

Vision is dead and doesn't have a glowing rock in his head. The last time we saw it, it was attached to Iron Man's armor and presumably Cap took it back to wherever they got it from. Whatever is going on, it's about Wanda.