Running MCU thread

[sgreenwell]

In addition to Regan's comment, well, Marvel movies are often focused on just the people and heroes we know. Later content - like the Daredevil show - has shown the perspective of some movies from different people who were uninvolved. Failing that, the next segment seemingly focuses on Dr. Strange, Wanda and Kang the Conqueror, all of which screw with the timeline regularly. And the X-Men and mutants are looming at some point. (My guess is that, in an inverse of the comics, maybe Wanda creates mutants somehow.)

 

[Scout]

Strange only had a limited amount of time to gather people so he focused on areas where there were multiple heroes.

This does not explain why the X-Men were not there, though.

 

[sgreenwell]

Strange only had a limited amount of time to gather people so he focused on areas where there were multiple heroes.

This does not explain why the X-Men were not there, though.

At least in the current Marvel-Disney universe, they haven't had any mutants at all, with the exception of the "fake out" of the imposter Quicksilver in "Wandavision."

 

[Roscablo]

Strange only had a limited amount of time to gather people so he focused on areas where there were multiple heroes.

This does not explain why the X-Men were not there, though.

They are either going to ignore it all together, which I suppose we can overlook it too, or with all the new characters they introduce that were around during these moments but weren't there they will come up with some sort of explanation and we can move on. I know there are holes in the MCU, but they have been so thorough in tying everything together that I'd think they'll throw some sort of reasoning out there. But who knows.

 

[Scout]

They are either going to ignore it all together, which I suppose we can overlook it too, or with all the new characters they introduce that were around during these moments but weren't there they will come up with some sort of explanation and we can move on. I know there are holes in the MCU, but they have been so thorough in tying everything together that I'd think they'll throw some sort of reasoning out there. But who knows.

Strange and Loki or Ultron events.

 

[outofplace]

So 10 rings guy — not at all familiar with the source material, obviously — was too young to fight Thanos?

Ok. Just saying, that will take a little explanation for awhile I feel like, because we've been shown that the events of Avengers 3/4 were defining moments for the entire world and presumably the universe.

To be fair, it's also been made clear many times that heroes often have better things to do than jump in on whatever the disaster of the week is for, say, Iron Man or Spider-man, etc.

Shang-Chi is just a human being with tremendous fighting skills, one who was trying to live a normal life away from super-powered stuff. I don't think he had the rings at the time of Infinity War.

The other explanation is that things simply moved too quickly for some people to get involved. If you are going to ask where those other heroes might have been, what about the military? It's not like they didn't know what was going on. Why weren't they attacking Thanos's forces, too?

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Marvel and DC face backlash over pay: 'They sent a thank you note and $5,000 – the movie made $1bn'

 

[Batman]

Shang-Chi is just a human being with tremendous fighting skills, one who was trying to live a normal life away from super-powered stuff. I don't think he had the rings at the time of Infinity War.

The other explanation is that things simply moved too quickly for some people to get involved. If you are going to ask where those other heroes might have been, what about the military? It's not like they didn't know what was going on. Why weren't they attacking Thanos's forces, too?

In Infinity War, the Avengers took it upon themselves to fight Thanos. They kept it pretty hush-hush, and within their inner circle, to the point not even Nick Fury knew what was going on*. The armies of the world certainly would not have known or been able to quickly mobilize to the middle of Africa for a sudden and massive firefight.

And then in Endgame, you could make the case that the military and the rest of the world were stretched too thin to help as they tried to get their bearings in the immediate aftermath of the Hulk Snap. Their ranks and resources would certainly have been depleted by not only the Snap, leaving them ill-equipped to be thrown into battle on a moment's notice. And then add on top of it the chaos of thousands of soldiers suddenly reappearing in their ranks, plus the civilian disorder from same, and to the extent the military could quickly mobilize at all it'd be to restore order on the civilian side of things. That might actually be a better use for them, too, rather than as cannon fodder in an all-out brawl between superbeings.


*The timeline at the end of Infinity War bugs me every time I see the final scene with Fury and Hill.
Hill makes a mention of "multiple bogeys coming in over Wakanda," which would seem to indicate the start of the battle with Thanos' troops. But then the Snap occurs seconds later, even though the battle obviously raged on for if not hours then at least for the better part of an hour. It's reasonable to think we see the fight in Wakanda in something close to real time.
So even if we see a condensed version of events, and even taking into account Thanos using the time stone to rewind a few moments, there is no way they go from the start of the battle to The Snap in 30 seconds.

 

[bigpern23]

Marvel and DC face backlash over pay: 'They sent a thank you note and $5,000 – the movie made $1bn'

Interesting story. Thanks for posting. If anyone can understand what it's like getting paid shirt and being unappreciated for the work they produce, it's a journalist.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Spoiler: Spidey, Doctor Strange

 

[Regan MacNeil]

First episode of What If…? was fun.

 

[outofplace]

First episode of What If…? was fun.

It was a good introduction to the concept and a fun little story. The best part is that it stands on its own, but I'm not sure the series will stay that way.