Seattle Times or Seattle P-I?

[luckyducky]

As reporters, I'll take the Times. As people, I'll take the PI. In reality, I don't take either.

As for the 'gonian, they're an interesting crew. The sports coverage is good (not great, but good), but they don't have a lot to draw from, either. I'm a bit of a Canzano fangirl, though.

In the greater Seattle area, the prevailing view seems to be that the PI will go under, it's a matter of when, not if. I'd love to see them both stay around though.

 

[Ace]

The Seattle Times has a good stable of writers, has a ton of space in the section and spends money. Granted, Blethen is a nut and that paper is only bleeding money and using that space because it needs to show a loss. Or that's the prevailing skinny anyway. The PI easily has the best columnist in the market (Art Thiel) and does some great work, but you do have to wonder how that JOA is going to work itself out. I take both papers when I'm in the area. Have a condo there. Not sure which is best day to day, but I like the special sections of the Times. Those are thick-a-- sections. Reminds you of the good ol' days when everyone used to do special sections right.

By the way if we're talking best paper in that region, I'd take The Oregonian and its pile of Pulitzers. Can anyone else figure out why nobody has hired Jack Hart, that guru writing coach there who is behind all those big projects, away from The Oregonian??

seattle, seattle, tacoma and quite possibly olympia are better than the oregonian you forking rookie.

clue up.

By my count, you are a newbie too, Mr. Foul Mouthed Petty.

 

[area313code]

Hey... Petty...

The Oregonian has won four Pulitzers since 1999.

In the same time frame...

The Times: 0

The PI: 2 (both in cartoons)

Tacoma: 0

Olympia: 0

forking rook.

I prefer the Times special sections, but if you're looking for great journalism let's not get sucked up in marketsize and number of teams. I work in LA. It ain't the best shop in the country.

 

[Tom Petty]

The Seattle Times has a good stable of writers, has a ton of space in the section and spends money. Granted, Blethen is a nut and that paper is only bleeding money and using that space because it needs to show a loss. Or that's the prevailing skinny anyway. The PI easily has the best columnist in the market (Art Thiel) and does some great work, but you do have to wonder how that JOA is going to work itself out. I take both papers when I'm in the area. Have a condo there. Not sure which is best day to day, but I like the special sections of the Times. Those are thick-a-- sections. Reminds you of the good ol' days when everyone used to do special sections right.

By the way if we're talking best paper in that region, I'd take The Oregonian and its pile of Pulitzers. Can anyone else figure out why nobody has hired Jack Hart, that guru writing coach there who is behind all those big projects, away from The Oregonian??

seattle, seattle, tacoma and quite possibly olympia are better than the oregonian you forking rookie.

clue up.

By my count, you are a newbie too, Mr. Foul Mouthed Petty.

i think the word used was rookie.

 

[Tom Petty]

Hey... Petty...

The Oregonian has won four Pulitzers since 1999.

In the same time frame...

The Times: 0

The PI: 2 (both in cartoons)

Tacoma: 0

Olympia: 0

forking rook.

I prefer the Times special sections, but if you're looking for great journalism let's not get sucked up in marketsize and number of teams. I work in LA. It ain't the best shop in the country.

F'in rook? ... i thought we were talking sports.

 

[Tom Petty]

The Seattle Times has a good stable of writers, has a ton of space in the section and spends money. Granted, Blethen is a nut and that paper is only bleeding money and using that space because it needs to show a loss. Or that's the prevailing skinny anyway. The PI easily has the best columnist in the market (Art Thiel) and does some great work, but you do have to wonder how that JOA is going to work itself out. I take both papers when I'm in the area. Have a condo there. Not sure which is best day to day, but I like the special sections of the Times. Those are thick-a-- sections. Reminds you of the good ol' days when everyone used to do special sections right.

By the way if we're talking best paper in that region, I'd take The Oregonian and its pile of Pulitzers. Can anyone else figure out why nobody has hired Jack Hart, that guru writing coach there who is behind all those big projects, away from The Oregonian??

seattle, seattle, tacoma and quite possibly olympia are better than the oregonian you forking rookie.

clue up.

Tom, you're an angry, angry man ...

Agree though that, in sports, the Oregonian is a step behind its northern brethren, which might have to do with the fact that the Seattle sports scene is just a bit more active than that of Portland. In news, however, the Oregonian is pretty damn solid, hence the Pulitzers. And weren't you just calling the Trib a "piece of shirt" a few weeks ago?

not angry lester, just to the point.

as far as news alone goes, yes, the oregonian is solid, very solid.

as far as the trib is concerned, i believe 'piece of shirt' was used when describing the way they handled the brame case. other than that, i don't believe i ever said it was anything other than solid ... although it once was better.

 

[Lester Bangs]

as far as the trib is concerned, i believe 'piece of shirt' was used when describing the way they handled the brame case. other than that, i don't believe i ever said it was anything other than solid ... although it once was better.

Yes, I know. Couldn't resist.

 

[area313code]

Well, shiiiit. That's all you had to say.

The papers in the Northwest have some great writers. Times. PI. Oregonian. There's a lot of hidden talent up there.

 

[Tom Petty]

Well, shiiiit. That's all you had to say.

The papers in the Northwest have some great writers. Times. PI. Oregonian. There's a lot of hidden talent up there.

hate to disappoint code, don't know what the heck you were looking for.

as far as the PNW goes, i believe it has as many good papers per "paper capita" as anywhere in the country. i mean, i say the oregonian sports section sucks ... yet as far as the rest of the country goes, it's not all that damned bad.

 

[RossLT]

I love the P-I, Thiel is great as are some of the other writers there. Farnsworth is one of the nicest people I have ever met.

Lester, Jim Moore?? Really?

 

[Angola!]

I love the P-I, Thiel is great as are some of the other writers there. Farnsworth is one of the nicest people I have ever met.

Lester, Jim Moore?? Really?

May I ask why you bumped a 2 1/2-year-old thread?

Anyway, Jim Moore is a pretty good read - plus Lester Bangs is a Washington State fan.

 

[Some Guy]

I love the P-I, Thiel is great as are some of the other writers there. Farnsworth is one of the nicest people I have ever met.

Lester, Jim Moore?? Really?

May I ask why you bumped a 2 1/2-year-old thread?

Anyway, Jim Moore is a pretty good read - plus Lester Bangs is a Washington State fan.

I just enjoyed reflecting on a time when TP was considered a "foul-mouthed newbie" ... instead of a "foul-mouthed veteran."