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Writers want a rematch, Coaches do not.

Alexander said:
Angola! said:
I understand you hate USC, but it is so amusing to me how you think the only team that can beat Ohio State is Michigan. The fact is the Wolverines and the Trojans both have one loss, beyond that, the Trojans have played a much, much better schedule.
Also, if you are going to say schedules don't matter because Michigan's loss was to No. 1, then your argument should also include that Boise State should be in the national title game, because if schedules don't matter (which is what Michigan fans are arguing at the root) then the Broncos are unbeaten and the Wolverines are not.

So:
No. 1 Ohio State vs. Boise State.

I don't hate USC. I said a team, not the team. Maybe USC could beat them. But they lost their shot when they lost to an unranked team. If they have such a hard schedule, they should make sure to have their off day against one of the good teams.

And I be all for Boise State against OSU, if Boise could get close enough to sniff the top of the computer rankings. But they can't. There's a reason for that.

Why does it matter? Boise State hasn't had an off day yet so the Broncos should be in the title game.
Anyway, I don't know why we are arguing this, because when USC runs the table all the little Michigan crybabies can weep into their other bowl game's milk.
 
Alexander said:
Maybe USC could beat them. But they lost their shot when they lost to an unranked team. If they have such a hard schedule, they should make sure to have their off day against one of the good teams.

USC will finish the season having played two teams with losing records; Michigan will have played five, plus two more that are at 6-6.

And let's look at Michigan's big wins ...

Notre Dame would be a wash if USC wins
Wisconsin hasn't beaten anyone currently ranked in the top 25
Penn State hasn't beaten anyone currently ranked in the top 25
Central Michigan hasn't beaten anyone currently ranked in the top 25

... So seriously, how good was Michigan's schedule? It certainly doesn't compare to USC's, I know that.
 
Alexander said:
I don't hate USC. I said a team, not the team. Maybe USC could beat them. But they lost their shot when they lost to an unranked team.

So what you're saying is that it is much more noble to face a cupcake like a Ball State or Illinois, rather than face a reputable foe such as an Nebraska or Arkansas and face the consequences? Orygun State is no consistant world beater, but they are certainly not a cupcake.

I'm still waiting for the explanation as to why a #2 only has to beat a #1 once out of two to end a season, yet the #1 has to beat the #2 twice to win the National Championship title.
 
FYI, Oregon State's Sagarin rating - generally accepted as a fairly accurate evaluator - is 24. One lower than Penn State, and higher than Georgia Tech (26), Nebraska (27), Georgia (35) and Maryland (37).

Had USC lost to one of those teams, it would be considered a quality loss. But instead it lost to Oregon State, which is not held in high regard because it sucked in the 1970s, 1980s and for much of the 1990s. That's still the image of the program, even though it will have played in bowl games six of the past eight years after this season.

A road loss to the third-place team in a BCS conference shouldn't be considered a bad one.
 
micropolitan guy said:
FYI, Oregon State's Sagarin rating - generally accepted as a fairly accurate evaluator - is 24. One lower than Penn State, and higher than Georgia Tech (26), Nebraska (27), Georgia (35) and Maryland (37).

Had USC lost to one of those teams, it would be considered a quality loss. But instead it lost to Oregon State, which is not held in high regard because it sucked in the 1970s, 1980s and for much of the 1990s. That's still the image of the program, even though it will have played in bowl games six of the past eight years after this season.

A road loss to the third-place team in a BCS conference shouldn't be considered a bad one.

Very valid points.


Also, here is UM's #1 Fanboy's comments on the game:
http://www.mgoblog.blogspot.com/

(OK, so he's the #1 fanboy outside of this site.)
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Alexander said:
Poor little Jimmy Notre Dame fan. He can't stand that his team has no chance to get to the dance, but the team that beat the ever-loving dog shirt out of it still does.

Poor little Alexander forkstick. He has no clue as to who my team is.
"Look Honey - Dolphins!"
 
Winner of the SEC Championship gets my vote, especially if it's one-loss Arkansas.

Not many teams playing better ball right now than the Hogs. Still got a date with LSU and the Championship. They win 'em both, tough to leave 'em out.
 
Piotr Rasputin said:
Columbo said:
Piotr Rasputin said:
Chuck~Taylor said:
Joe Rossi said:
Sorry, no rematch.

The proponents of the current system hype every week being a playoff. No amnesty.

Michigan had its chance and lost.
I'm sorry, but SC had it's chance to beat OREGON STATE and lost.

So speaketh fanboy . . . . . .
You looking in the mirror again?

Yeah, I'm sure the guy who is in the "Schembechler wasn't THAT great" camp is a Michigan fan.

Putz.

No, Dunce.

Chuck~Taylor is an unabashed Michigan fanboy. I wasn't talking to you.
fork...I'm getting old.

Sorry about the scud.
 
dog428 said:
Winner of the SEC Championship gets my vote, especially if it's one-loss Arkansas.

Not many teams playing better ball right now than the Hogs. Still got a date with LSU and the Championship. They win 'em both, tough to leave 'em out.

So you would be willing to overlook that 36-point home loss to USC, despite how much better the Trojans are playing now as compared to when they played that game months ago?
 
Jimmy Olson said:
I'm still waiting for the explanation as to why a #2 only has to beat a #1 once out of two to end a season, yet the #1 has to beat the #2 twice to win the National Championship title.

You're asking why Michigan only has to beat Ohio State once (January 8th), while Ohio State has to beat Michigan twice (November 18th and January 8th).

Suppose last Saturday's outcome was reversed: Michigan won, and Ohio State dropped to #2. Then Michigan would have had to beat Ohio State twice (November 18th and January 8th), while Ohio State would have had to win only on January 8th.

In this scenario, it turns out that the November 18th game is meaningless. Regardless of who won that game, either team can win the title by winning the upcoming championship game.
 
Jimmy Olson said:
I'm still waiting for the Michigan forksticks to explain why a #2 team should have to beat the #1 team just once to win a title, yet the #1 team must beat the #2 team twice. Call me dumb - I just can't figure that one out.

Further, to the assclowns who are spewing on USC for dropping a game to the Beavers, I'd say that is probably on par with the Wolverines barely escaping Ball State. ...OK, barely escaping a MAC school is worse. Afterall, why on earth are they even playing a MAC school?

I think that even Florida would beat Michigan by a couple scores. Ark, ND, USC, and Nebraska would probably pound Michigan into the ground at this point in the year. What happened early in the year has no bearing on the outcome. Michigan had their shot and pissed it down their dress.

Perhaps someone who covers Michigan can verifiy this but Ball State would have been the 12th game, filling in the Wolverines' original bye. And the Big Ten and MAC made an agreement to help fill out their respective schedules when the NCAA voted for a 12th game. I'm sure the fact Ball State is now led by a former Michigan assistant didn't hurt, either.
 
So you would be willing to overlook that 36-point home loss to USC, despite how much better the Trojans are playing now as compared to when they played that game months ago?

It's not easy to overlook it. But when you consider . . .

--- When the game was played

--- Who was missing from the game (McFadden)

--- How well Arkansas is playing NOW (how great was George Mason basketball before it hit its stride?)

--- Who Arkansas will have had to beat to become 11-1 (Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Florida)

It makes the September loss a little easier to swallow.

But Arkansas STILL has two hurdles to even merit consideration. If they clear them, I'd say they are as good a candidate as Michigan or the USC-Notre Dame winner.
 

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