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AP hockey captions

Yeah, we've bitched about that to AP, and the latest thing about "during a National Hockey League game" and "in an NFL football game" too. Their explanation is same as above.

Just cut that crap. If your cutline is more than 3 lines deep and it's a 2-col art, the cutline's too long.

By the way, "Kevorkian" means "son of Kevork" in Armenian. You're welcome.
 
Double J said:
Armchair_QB said:
RedCanuck said:
Anaheim Ducks Teemu Selanne, of Finland, left, and Andy McDonald, right, congratulate Chris Kunitz, at the end of the game, after he scored two power-play goals, to help defeat the St. Louis Blues, 2-0, in Anaheim, Calif., Monday, Oct. 9, 2006. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)

If Selanne, of Finland, is in the cutline, why not McDonald of Canada, or Kunitz of Canada. I'd think you'd want to identify all or none unless there's some significance becauss it's rare for a player from a given country to play.

Because you can tell they're Canadian just by looking at them.

Exactly. They're wearing sandwich-board signs that distinctly say "will play for paycheque"
:D

Must have a hell of time getting their uniforms on.
 
MertWindu said:
RedCanuck said:
Anaheim Ducks Teemu Selanne, of Finland, left, and Andy McDonald, right, congratulate Chris Kunitz, at the end of the game, after he scored two power-play goals, to help defeat the St. Louis Blues, 2-0, in Anaheim, Calif., Monday, Oct. 9, 2006. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)

If Selanne, of Finland, is in the cutline, why not McDonald of Canada, or Kunitz of Canada. I'd think you'd want to identify all or none unless there's some significance becauss it's rare for a player from a given country to play.

Canadian and US papers are looking for NHL stuff every night (well, you know, whatever), so their interest is the game itself, not the cast of characters. Let's say a Kazakh paper with an AP subscription just wants to find out if there are any Kazakh players to run in its sports section for tomorrow, now it can search by "Kazakhstan," and get whomever.

(Yes, go ahead, insert Borat images here)

The whomever would be Maple Leafs dud, Nik Antropov
 
mannheimadler said:
I guess the reason it annoys me is our desk guys more often then not forget to take it out. I just feel it looks odd on a printed sports page.

Why are the cutline writers typing in word for word what AP photogs have on the cutline? They make so many mistakes and, as in this case, words that have no business in the cutline anyway.
 
Claws for Concern said:
mannheimadler said:
I guess the reason it annoys me is our desk guys more often then not forget to take it out. I just feel it looks odd on a printed sports page.

Why are the cutline writers typing in word for word what AP photogs have on the cutline? They make so many mistakes and, as in this case, words that have no business in the cutline anyway.

Give me a D. Give me an E. Give me an S. Give me an I. Give me a G. Give me an N.

What's that spell?
 
DyePack said:
Claws for Concern said:
mannheimadler said:
I guess the reason it annoys me is our desk guys more often then not forget to take it out. I just feel it looks odd on a printed sports page.

Why are the cutline writers typing in word for word what AP photogs have on the cutline? They make so many mistakes and, as in this case, words that have no business in the cutline anyway.

Give me a D. Give me an E. Give me an S. Give me an I. Give me a G. Give me an N.

What's that spell?

Dye, please lay off the design rant. This has nothing to do with design. I'm a designer. Something like this getting in the paper comes down to sheer laziness, nothing more.
 
Laziness spawned from the attitude of drawing boxes and viewing text as something to fill in the box that was drawn.
 
DyePack said:
Laziness spawned from the attitude of drawing boxes and viewing text as something to fill in the box that was drawn.

Well, there's lazy people in newsrooms all across America. Designers haven't cornered the market on that one.
 
My opinion may be somewhat colored by the newsroom where AP cutlines were dragged into a text box word-for-word EVERY NIGHT, and then every night I would cross off the same stupid shit.

These people were not hired for their editing skills. That leaves either their sparkling personalities, or well, you know.
 
DyePack said:
My opinion may be somewhat colored by the newsroom where AP cutlines were dragged into a text box word-for-word EVERY NIGHT, and then every night I would cross off the same stupid shit.

These people were not hired for their editing skills. That leaves either their sparkling personalities, or well, you know.

You've had bad experiences with stupid, lazy designers. Fair enough. Just trying to point out that we're not all the devil.
 
And those are the people who should be dealing with the skewed priorities that have taken hold.

Instead, they embrace them. It's easier to do that, and it replaces objective standards with subjective ones. It's much easier to use subjective standards as a club because you can always change them to suit your whims.
 

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