BCS leagues expanding - yeah?

[Stoney]

Baylor and Iowa State can reach out to the Big East all they want, but there's a good chance there won't be a Big East to reach out to, at least for football schools.

Agreed, the Big East no longer provides much salvation to B12 teams if this goes down. That's just jumping from the sunk ship to a sinking one. And if West Virginia indeed does become the SEC's 14th, on top of losing Cuse and Pitt, the Big East might end up reaching the bottom of the sea before the B12. The vultures are circling both conferences.

 

[Mystery Meat II]

You know who takes it in the shorts with the rise of the megaconference? South Florida. They're not attractive enough a candidate for the big four, they'd be a weird fit in any other big conference, they don't have the following to go indy. They might have to go to C-USA.

 

[Stoney]

UMass can join the Big East, as it's going D-IA in football. Who knows, maybe the'll even invite Temple back in, since the Owls football team is now competitive. Even Buffalo is a possibility, albeit remote.

The Big East will do whatever it has to to remain an AQ BCS conference.

You really think the Big East could keep its AQ status with that pitiful lineup? It's already the weakest and most suspect BCS conference by far, they're just barely taken seriously enough to keep AQ status with their current lineup. You think they still will be if teams like Pitt, West Virginia and Syracuse are replaced with the likes of Buffalo, Temple and UMass (which has never played a single IA game in its history). Please. Among other things, why would conferences like the Mountain West and Conf-USA continue to accept such a shirtty mid-major calibur conference having AQ status when they don't?

Nope, if the BE loses Cuse, Pitt, and WVU, I think their AQ days will soon be coming to an end. heck, they've just barely been hanging on to that status as it is.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

You know who takes it in the shorts with the rise of the megaconference? South Florida. They're not attractive enough a candidate for the big four, they'd be a weird fit in any other big conference, they don't have the following to go indy. They might have to go to C-USA.

Them and Louisville. Its a shame. USF has done everything asked of them and it still may not be enough.

 

[Mystery Meat II]

You know who takes it in the shorts with the rise of the megaconference? South Florida. They're not attractive enough a candidate for the big four, they'd be a weird fit in any other big conference, they don't have the following to go indy. They might have to go to C-USA.

Them and Louisville. Its a shame. USF has done everything asked of them and it still may not be enough.

I think Louisville is in better shape for getting into a post-apocalyptic Big 12 because they have good facilities, recent success, a decent following and aren't that far from the surviving schools. Probably not enough to get them in the Big SixTen or the ACC, but enough that they shouldn't fall to the MAC or CUSA.

South Florida is just cornered in where they are. The only geographically logical conferences are the ACC and SEC, and they aren't getting into either. Central Florida, while not in a BCS conference now, probably had reasonable designs on moving up that are probably dead now for the same reason.

 

[Layman]

I'm at least a little curious as to why Connecticut isn't part of this. Is the ACC doing this because it thinks it's about to lose a school or two? Is UConn's recent trouble with the NCAA why the ACC apparently isn't interested? Are our "superconferences" going to be 14-team deals and not 16?

Actually, I've wondered the same things lately. Won't surprise me at all, if at least a couple of the "megas" end up at 14. B1G, in particular. Big enough to say relevant (12 looks pretty meager, compared to 16), but having to spread the wealth a bit less.

I still believe that the strategy for the B1G is to sit back & let things unfold, at this point. The "gold ring" for them continues to be located in South Bend & the (what now looks to be) unraveling of the Big East only helps with that. Add in ND and (fill in the blank), stay at 14. Wouldn't shock me, in this scenario, to see U Conn land here. Expand the footprint east a bit.

 

[TigerVols]

Now seems the perfect time for Mark Cuban to dust off his NCAA Football billion-dollar-plus playoff plan and start making some noise of his own.

There's no law that says CFB must be governed by the jackwagons in Indy.

 

[NightHawk112005]

From this Mizzou fanboi's POV, the best thing about the ACC news today is that the league jacked up its fine for leaving the conference from $12 to $20 million -- making it much less likely VaTech could fill the SEC's 14th slot.

Didn't affect that a bit, actually. It's hard for a likelihood to go any further less than zero than that one already was.

Noticed that. But would that extra $8M *really* keep a team that is dead-set on leaving? Maybe so, I suppose.

Maybe not, but Virginia Tech is dead set on staying. They could make the penalty $20 and it wouldn't affect the Hokies' desires. Florida State might have been another matter.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

From this Mizzou fanboi's POV, the best thing about the ACC news today is that the league jacked up its fine for leaving the conference from $12 to $20 million -- making it much less likely VaTech could fill the SEC's 14th slot.

Didn't affect that a bit, actually. It's hard for a likelihood to go less than zero.

You sure love to deal in absolutes. Again, how can you be so sure Virginia Tech wouldn't consider the SEC? I'm not saying they are leaving or even want to leave, but every single school in the country has to keep its options open right now and just because being in the ACC was the dream of Hokies in the 90s doesn't mean it's the best option today.

 

[NightHawk112005]

From this Mizzou fanboi's POV, the best thing about the ACC news today is that the league jacked up its fine for leaving the conference from $12 to $20 million -- making it much less likely VaTech could fill the SEC's 14th slot.

Didn't affect that a bit, actually. It's hard for a likelihood to go less than zero.

You sure love to deal in absolutes. Again, how can you be so sure Virginia Tech wouldn't consider the SEC? I'm not saying they are leaving or even want to leave, but every single school in the country has to keep its options open right now and just because being in the ACC was the dream of Hokies in the 90s doesn't mean it's the best option today.

Because that's been their position for decades and the people in power haven't changed their stance one bit. The Hokies have admitted that if any schools leave, they would re-assess their stance, but as long as the ACC exists at 12 or more teams, they were going to remain in the ACC.

With most schools, I agree that you can't deal in absolutes. With Virginia Tech, you can. As long as the ACC doesn't lose any teams, and it looks like it certainly won't at this point, the Hokies' interest in the SEC is zilch.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

From this Mizzou fanboi's POV, the best thing about the ACC news today is that the league jacked up its fine for leaving the conference from $12 to $20 million -- making it much less likely VaTech could fill the SEC's 14th slot.

Didn't affect that a bit, actually. It's hard for a likelihood to go less than zero.

You sure love to deal in absolutes. Again, how can you be so sure Virginia Tech wouldn't consider the SEC? I'm not saying they are leaving or even want to leave, but every single school in the country has to keep its options open right now and just because being in the ACC was the dream of Hokies in the 90s doesn't mean it's the best option today.

Because that's been their position for decades and the people in power haven't changed their stance one bit. The Hokies have admitted that if any schools leave, they would re-assess their stance, but as long as the ACC exists at 12 or more teams, they were going to remain in the ACC.

With most schools, I agree that you can't deal in absolutes. With Virginia Tech, you can. As long as the ACC doesn't lose any teams, and it looks like it certainly won't at this point, the Hokies' interest in the SEC is zilch.

That's likely the way it will play out, but it's a bit naive to take what university administrators say publicly at face value.

 

[Dr. J]

I'm at least a little curious as to why Connecticut isn't part of this. Is the ACC doing this because it thinks it's about to lose a school or two? Is UConn's recent trouble with the NCAA why the ACC apparently isn't interested? Are our "superconferences" going to be 14-team deals and not 16?

Actually, I've wondered the same things lately. Won't surprise me at all, if at least a couple of the "megas" end up at 14. B1G, in particular. Big enough to say relevant (12 looks pretty meager, compared to 16), but having to spread the wealth a bit less.

I still believe that the strategy for the B1G is to sit back & let things unfold, at this point. The "gold ring" for them continues to be located in South Bend & the (what now looks to be) unraveling of the Big East only helps with that. Add in ND and (fill in the blank), stay at 14. Wouldn't shock me, in this scenario, to see U Conn land here. Expand the footprint east a bit.

because uconn sued the acc in 2003 when miami and vt left.