Biggest "beat 'em up" CFB cupcake payouts?

[Cosmo]

Wyoming beat Tennessee in that game, I believe, too.

Not so much. Tennessee won 47-7.

But is an agreement to move a previously schedule game the same thing as scheduling a new game?

I was thinking of the 2008 game, which Wyoming did win in Knoxville.

And I have no problem with an FBS underdog knocking off an FBS school from an "elite" conference. It's what Division I college football should be.

What's even worse is when D-I basketball schools play Division II and, sometimes even, NAIA schools. that's disgraceful. Over 350 D-I hoops schools and they've got to schedule a patsy from a lower level to embarrass just to record one more victory? I hate it in every sport and at every level.

It's a major, major struggle for the lower-level DI teams to get home games, even home-and-homes against lower-level DIs. Unless you're Mississippi Valley State, you don't want your team not to play ANY home games in the non-conference so these get scheduled. It's no different than Carolina scheduling Gardner-Webb or Florida scheduling Bethune-Cookman.

The one tangible benefit to the BracketBusters was that it gave you a non-conference game the next year (or two years down the road, if you wanted to wait).

 

[Thomas Goldkamp]

What part of it's not the FBS schools' responsibility to fund the FCS athletics departments don't you understand? They'd have to figure it out. But, I guess it's OK for the kids to be embarrassed in a 70-3 game because the school is gonna get a million bucks. That type of logic is what's wrong with NCAA sports. All about the money. If there's a bigger hypocritical entity than the NCAA, I don't know of it.

What part of how the NCAA process works don't you understand? Apparently all of it.

The legislative process would involve all Division I schools - FBS and FCS. The FCS schools will never vote to outlaw these games and they outnumber the FBS schools.

And the FBS schools will continue to schedule them because everybody wants at least seven home games a year.

Also correct. Florida, for example, won't schedule the extra "BIG" game because most FBS teams want and need a home-and-home. Florida's athletic budget depends on so many games per year in Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. Florida makes way more than it pays out for the cupcake game.

Florida's situation's also a little different because it plays one of its games in Jacksonville every year, so a home-and-home means giving up a seventh home game. The Gators will only have six games in Gainesville in 2013 because of their return end of a home-and-home with Miami, but that's atypical.

 

[deskslave]

What part of it's not the FBS schools' responsibility to fund the FCS athletics departments don't you understand? They'd have to figure it out. But, I guess it's OK for the kids to be embarrassed in a 70-3 game because the school is gonna get a million bucks. That type of logic is what's wrong with NCAA sports. All about the money. If there's a bigger hypocritical entity than the NCAA, I don't know of it.

What part of how the NCAA process works don't you understand? Apparently all of it.

The legislative process would involve all Division I schools - FBS and FCS. The FCS schools will never vote to outlaw these games and they outnumber the FBS schools.

And the FBS schools will continue to schedule them because everybody wants at least seven home games a year.

Also correct. Florida, for example, won't schedule the extra "BIG" game because most FBS teams want and need a home-and-home. Florida's athletic budget depends on so many games per year in Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. Florida makes way more than it pays out for the cupcake game.

Florida's situation's also a little different because it plays one of its games in Jacksonville every year, so a home-and-home means giving up a seventh home game. The Gators will only have six games in Gainesville in 2013 because of their return end of a home-and-home with Miami, but that's atypical.

It only gives up a "home" game in Jacksonville every other year. And if Florida does it like Georgia does, it's got the schedule arranged so that it plays FSU at home in the years that it's the home team in Jacksonville. That said, it does have to play all three remaining nonconference games at home if it wants seven home games, which seems to be the new normal.

 

[Knighthawk]

Here's the list for the Big 10. Remarkably enough, it adds up to 30. And I didn't include Navy.

Western Michigan, Charleston Southern, Louisiana Tech, Indiana State, UMass, Ball State, Northern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Central Michigan, UMass, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, UNLV, New Hampshire, Western Michigan, Southern Miss, Arkansas State, Idaho State, South Dakota, Miami (Ohio), UCF, UAB, Ohio, Temple, Eastern Kentucky, Eastern Michigan, Marshall, Northern Iowa, Utah State and UTEP.

Northern Illinois finished the season ranked higher in the BCS than any Big Ten team, so that one might be more of an embarrassment for the MAC.

 

[YankeeFan]

Then some I-AA (still ain't saying FCS) schools develop a reputation as I-A (still ain't saying FBS) killers and get avoided like the plague. That's the fate that befell Arkansas State in the mid-1980s and Boise State later. Forced both to go FBS, and Boise obviously did better.

Your boycott didn't last very long.

 

[Matt Stephens]

North Dakota State has won four consecutive games against FBS schools. Colorado State, Minnesota, Kansas and someone else, I believe.

Sure it isn't Minnesota twice?

I believe so. Minnesota has lost to a FCS school recently. New Hampshire is good at pulling off the FBS upset. Then they choke in the playoffs.

You guys are right. Speaking of NDSU, anyone catch its semifinal game against Georgia Southern? What a doozie.

 

[Armchair_QB]

North Dakota State has won four consecutive games against FBS schools. Colorado State, Minnesota, Kansas and someone else, I believe.

Sure it isn't Minnesota twice?

I believe so. Minnesota has lost to a FCS school recently. New Hampshire is good at pulling off the FBS upset. Then they choke in the playoffs.

You guys are right. Speaking of NDSU, anyone catch its semifinal game against Georgia Southern? What a doozie.

Apparently the Sam-EWU game was too.