Coup attempt in Turkey

[doctorquant]

Those AP photos by Burhan Ozbilici are surreal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/w...ackage-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Holy shit ...

 

[heyabbott]

LOL. Until 24 hours ago, the conventional wisdom was that Trump would be much more friendly to Erdogan. Despite the authoritarian crackdown, Trump would turn over Gulen to them, in part because of his business interests in Turkey.

That's not in putins best interest

 

[YankeeFan]

Moderate John Kasich's political adviser:

 

[YankeeFan]

Police officer.

 

[heyabbott]

Police officer.

Russia veto at UN over Aleppo https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...o-evacuations-in-doubt.amp.html?client=safari

 

[Stoney]

Police officer.

If that pic's authentic, then that photographer has balls of steel for getting that shot when that gun was pointed damn near at him.

 

[KJIM]

If that pic's authentic, then that photographer has balls of steel for getting that shot when that gun was pointed damn near at him.

CNN has a series of seven AP photos and video of shooting. I shudder to think what didn't make the wire.

I was in Ankara on Saturday.

 

[Spartan Squad]

Pulitzer prize for photography contest is over. Jesus Christ what a photog.

 

[bigpern23]

Police officer.

I was just going to comment after seeing those photos that the gunman looked well-trained. Ugh, how awful. And, to echo others, that photog has a set of brass to get those shots.

 

[HanSenSE]

Amazing first-person story on the photos:
AP Definitive Source | AP photographer: 'I composed myself enough to shoot pictures'

 

[cjericho]

Maybe I'm missing something, but after saying it's "an embarrassing security failure in the Turkish capital," shouldn't there be more information on how he got in the building. Not familiar with the laws in Turkey, but in the US off-duty police officers can carry their weapons pretty much anywhere (with a few exceptions). Maybe it's not the same, but if an off-duty NYPD assassinated a diplomat in an embassy, would it be called an embarrassing security failure?

 

[Vombatus]

Maybe I'm missing something, but after saying it's "an embarrassing security failure in the Turkish capital," shouldn't there be more information on how he got in the building. Not familiar with the laws in Turkey, but in the US off-duty police officers can carry their weapons pretty much anywhere (with a few exceptions). Maybe it's not the same, but if an off-duty NYPD assassinated a diplomat in an embassy, would it be called an embarrassing security failure?

It looked to me, if I read the story correctly, like he was part of the security detail (albeit off-duty, perhaps hired by the art museum?). I would hire more senior police with more to lose - family, retirement, etc., than young officers who could be idealists with very little to lose and more apt to strike out and make a political statement.

But, yes, embarrassing. Insider threat screening is becoming more and more of a research interest and policy driver. Here in the US, that research is being driven more on the cyber side by what Manning and Snowden did. "Extreme vetting" is something that will become more of a reality, and such techniques do not just apply to immigration policies and Muslims. [Any US political discussion belongs on the new golf thread - I'm throwing this out here in relation to what happened in Turkey yesterday and to answer cj. Can discuss this further on the other thread.]