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President Trump 2.0: The NEW one and only politics thread

As Inky brings up, it's pretty much the worst time he could have done it, because it means we'll get someone that is somehow worse than DeJoy for another 10-year term or so. (I think that's how long they get.)

there is no term limit for the position unfortunately
 
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think the Catholic Church is that powerful in this country anymore. The raping of children meant it surrendered every bit of its moral authority. All the nutters are dying off or retiring. Do they even have enough cardinals to make any impact at the next conclave?

They run the Supreme Court.
 
This judge better have personal security due to the backlash once Fox News rants about this.

Judge torches Trump lawyers over ban on trans service members and pronouns: 'Frankly ridiculous'

No, we need more judges (and politicians) like this. Willing to do this -- and about issues besides this one, which, frankly, is minor in comparison to some of Trump's/Musk's other actions.

They have made some truly disgusting, unnecessary moves for no other purpose than to tear things down that never should've happened, or been allowed to happen without a fight. Those in power need to be willing and unafraid to fight, even if it might cost them politically.
 
Yes, his supporters would largely acknowledge it as too far. And if that happens, that'd be a major problem. He'd be out of office.

The current problem is that many people conflate what is happening with that happening, and they're not remotely the same. And even if I don't agree with some of Trump/DOGE's cuts, I don't believe it's a daily constitutional crisis.

Trump is absolutely a leader with zero nuance and attention span, prone to real-time experiments and negotiations and online bleats that lack polish. But it's like I'm a policy debate round judge and I'm listening to one of those 1st negative constructive cases where every disadvantage ends in nuclear war.
Which of the Muskovites' cuts do you like?
 
Question: How overtly terrible does the Trump regime have to be, before "supporting Donald Trump" makes you a bad person?

Like, for example, if we were throwing people into an oversea prison so we could avoid granting them due process … is that bad enough? Or does it need to be worse?

I have brought this up before here or somewhere, I don't know, but the majority of my wife's family is stupid conservative and always has been. I have known them for 30 years at this point. They have always acted and talked, just quietly, like Trump. They have always felt this way -- but they will be really nice to your face. I haven't seen them do it yet, but Trump obviously has given many the reason to say and do those quiet parts out loud. It's probably why he is so darn popular with Republicans in general because he let them finally be themselves.

There may be some who voted on policy or whatever, but I don't see how you separate his supporters from the bad. You support him and you are supporting bad things. Period.

I also think that many will realize this, especially if it was more support on policy (whatever that is) or principal or just because GOP!, that will eventually go, um, this isn't good. But most of the things I have seen still support. Like real people on real news items or social posts. Lots of what laws are being broken or look at all the fraud! So we are far from the mash supporter really questioning anything.
 

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