Tom vs. Patrick -- Super Bowl LV thread

[HappyCurmudgeon]

I was shocked at how little the Reid/Bienemy team did to compensate for what should've been expected issues with protection. I expected a shirt ton of short quick passing, get that ball out of Mahomes hands quickly, stay on a schedule of manageable third downs and nickel and dime them. Probably do more twin-TE sets. Nothing of the sort.

The Rams employed that sort of gameplay against the Bucs earlier this season and I think Goff threw for 375 yards on 39 completions with Woods and Kupp getting over half of them. We all knew the Bucs were going to double team Hill, so I expected short routes to Watkins and Hardman and Pringle to get those guys involved early and get the Bucs to back off of doubling Hill and Kelce. Instead the Chiefs tried to push the ball with long-developing pass plays and assumed their makeshift line would hold up. It was surprising how little they game planned for this over two weeks. It was as if they figured Mahomes could just save them in any situation.

Fournette was the guy for the Bucs offensively. He ran hard, caught passes, did a bit on protection and generally wore down KC. Brady was super efficient in the first half. The officiating was too influential -- they basically handed the Bucs that touchdown before the half on an awful DPI that should've been a no-call and the one on Mathieu probably should've just been illegal contact if anything. Vita Vea was tremendous for the Bucs defensive line. He takes on two blockers every snap and frees up the rushers to do their thing.

End of the day the Bucs didn't give the Chiefs room to breathe or any opportunities to gain confidence in what they were doing offensively. They have an excellent coaching staff that will stay intact for another season because the League is far more into promoting mediocre white guys to head coaching positions.

 

[Hermes]

If Chad Henne called a reporter after the game and said, "Even I could've gotten us nine points. Also, I'm retiring," he could've gone out as a god.

 

[outofplace]

I don't have a problem with Brady, either. Until White got a few tackles and the last pick in garbage time to pad his stats there was no one person who was dominating the game for them, or even who you could point to as the guy who had the best game for them. In cases like that it always defaults to the quarterback, especially when they have a solid game like Brady did.
In the original post I was spitballing potential MVP candidates and for whatever reason JC seemed to think it was outrageous to even consider anyone other than Brady.

JC gotta JC.

 

[Songbird]

Probably Brady. Maybe should be Gronk.
The Bucs defense is the real MVP but I'm not sure any one person on that side of the ball has the stats to point to as the difference maker. Mahomes has gotten rid of the ball before they can sack him, and his one turnover was off a deflection. Devin White has nine tackles, but no sacks or takeaways.

CBS writer thought the same.

 

[Songbird]

21-for-29, 201 yards, 3 TDs).

Brady was great.

 

[Songbird]

You guys are still here? It's Australian Open time.

How many ovs, ovas, and skayas are seeded?

 

[Songbird]

I was shocked at how little the Reid/Bienemy team did to compensate for what should've been expected issues with protection. I expected a shirt ton of short quick passing, get that ball out of Mahomes hands quickly, stay on a schedule of manageable third downs and nickel and dime them. Probably do more twin-TE sets. Nothing of the sort.

The Rams employed that sort of gameplay against the Bucs earlier this season and I think Goff threw for 375 yards on 39 completions with Woods and Kupp getting over half of them. We all knew the Bucs were going to double team Hill, so I expected short routes to Watkins and Hardman and Pringle to get those guys involved early and get the Bucs to back off of doubling Hill and Kelce. Instead the Chiefs tried to push the ball with long-developing pass plays and assumed their makeshift line would hold up. It was surprising how little they game planned for this over two weeks. It was as if they figured Mahomes could just save them in any situation.

Fournette was the guy for the Bucs offensively. He ran hard, caught passes, did a bit on protection and generally wore down KC. Brady was super efficient in the first half. The officiating was too influential -- they basically handed the Bucs that touchdown before the half on an awful DPI that should've been a no-call and the one on Mathieu probably should've just been illegal contact if anything. Vita Vea was tremendous for the Bucs defensive line. He takes on two blockers every snap and frees up the rushers to do their thing.

End of the day the Bucs didn't give the Chiefs room to breathe or any opportunities to gain confidence in what they were doing offensively. They have an excellent coaching staff that will stay intact for another season because the League is far more into promoting mediocre white guys to head coaching positions.

Fournette's 27-yard TD run untouched was pretty football. As perfect a play as you can get.

 

[Songbird]

 

[BTExpress]

How many ovs, ovas, and skayas are seeded?

6 on the men, but one's Canadian, one's Bulgarian and one's German. 8 on the women, 4 of them Czechs.

 

[exmediahack]

It was weird. The Bucs were the perfect level of physical. They knew right where the line was. The Chiefs were soft but still too grabby.

 

[Scout]

It was weird. The Bucs were the perfect level of physical. They knew right where the line was. The Chiefs were soft but still too grabby.

One of Brady's strengths is seeing the interference and throwing in the direction of the foul. The flag usually is thrown after the ball hits the ground.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Rick Gosselin pointed out that this ref's regular season crew had worked two KC games and in each one the Chiefs had double-digit penalties. This is knowledge Tampa Bay employed and Kansas City ignored. But Scout is right. There's a reason Brady's teams get so many PI calls. He looks for them. In this game, he had time to look for anything he wanted after the first two possessions. Bucs' offensive line had a great night, too. Every single element of the Bucs' team enjoyed strong performances. That's how blowouts happen.