2024 Basketball Hall of Fame Clash

[da man]

AC Green did OK for himself.

Took him long enough, though.

 

[swingline]

That's not what she said.

 

[micropolitan guy]

I wonder if PJ Carlesimo has a vote and if so, would he vote for John Clougherty. He never ripped him in public but that was a real ticky-tack foul that gave Glen Rice the foul shots to win the NCAA title.

 

[BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo]

That's not what she said.

That one was forking crushed.

 

[BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo]

Certainly for much of his career Billups seemed like the kind of player who would make a good coach -- Doc Rivers I suppose would be a good comparison -- but so did Isiah and Dumars.

Most really good players are terrible coaches. An exception thus far is Shaheen Holloway at Saint Peter's/Seton Hall.

 

[Starman]

Well, Bird was a pretty good coach in his relatively brief stint.

Lenny Wilkens was pretty comparable to Billups and Dumars as a player -- HOF level.
But those guys are definitely in the minority.

 

[BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo]

Bird was also a.) smart enough not to coach the Celtics and b.) smart enough to understand the shelf life is brief. Did his thing as long as he thought he could and got out.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Billy Cunningham was a good player and a good coach.

So was Doug Collins.

 

[Della9250]

The Clash of 2024

Vince Carter

Chauncey Billups

Michael Cooper

Walter Davis

Charles Smith

Bo Ryan


Women's Committee

Seimone Augustus

Michele Timms

Harley Redin


Contributors

Jerry West

Herb Simon

Doug Collins


Veteran's Committee

deck Barnett

 

[Della9250]

They put in every finalist except for Marian Washington, who is 77. So that seems kinda shitty

 

[franticscribe]

Next year is Dawn Staley's 25th season as a head coach.

If she doesn't join John Wooden, Lenny Wilkens, Bill Sharman, Tom Heinsohn and Bill Russell on the list of people who have been inducted both as a player and a coach, it'll be a crime.

I expect some bullship argument about her not having been a "full-time" coach during those first five years when she was still playing in the WNBA in the summer.

 

[dixiehack]

Three natties as a coach plus an Olympic gold medal? Oh I promise there's room for her to share a HOF with Bo Ryan, no questions asked.