N.I.L.: Good or Bad?

[Michael_ Gee]

Don't be too sure. SCOTUS is in control of the fascists.

The decision that started NIL was a straight 9-0.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Here's what I want changed with NIL: Make it to where the schools can openly pay players from the regular funding sources instead of having a parallel universe of "collectives" and treating the artificial barrier between the pots of money as sacrosanct.

The Nashville Predators make money from me when I buy a game ticket, a burger from the concession stand and maybe something from the gift shop. And indirectly they make money when I watch on TV, which contributes to the ratings that let them make money from broadcast rights.

From that money, they run the whole team, including payroll expenses. They don't come back around with a separate email saying "Whoops! That other money you spent only covers coaching and arena expenses. We need you to add another monthly subscription to afford a better defenseman."

The Predators don't have a baseball, volleyball, soccer, golf, volleyball et all team to fund.

 

[I Should Coco]

Here's what I want changed with NIL: Make it to where the schools can openly pay players from the regular funding sources instead of having a parallel universe of "collectives" and treating the artificial barrier between the pots of money as sacrosanct.

The Nashville Predators make money from me when I buy a game ticket, a burger from the concession stand and maybe something from the gift shop. And indirectly they make money when I watch on TV, which contributes to the ratings that let them make money from broadcast rights.

From that money, they run the whole team, including payroll expenses. They don't come back around with a separate email saying "Whoops! That other money you spent only covers coaching and arena expenses. We need you to add another monthly subscription to afford a better defenseman."

Agree with you on payments coming from the school rather than these NIL slush funds that are being used.

But the difference between the Nashville Predators and, say, the Tennessee Vols football team, is the latter is financing not just the football program, but a bunch of other non-revenue sports.

If I have my facts straight (never a sure thing!), the NIL money can be targeted to specific players and programs (particularly football and basketball).

EDIT: as @micropolitan guy put it much more succinctly.

 

[Scout]

If NIL gets football players to play in bowl games - fantastic.

 

[DanOregon]

And if they really want Congress to institute a spending cap - then you go all in - and tell schools, ALL TV money will be distributed equally - since you want all the schools to play on a level playing field - and lets go back into the time machine while we're at it - and require geographic-based conferences. (All conferences must play in the same time zone, or be time zone adjacent. )

 

[HappyCurmudgeon]

The biggest issue with the NIL (and the transfer portal) for CFB coaches is the fact that it takes away their control. By large, CFB coaches are heavy control freaks. Lane Kiffin suggested that the coaches handle the NIL distribution because they enjoy the one-way street relationship with the player. Nick Saban is one of the most progressive coaches with these changes, which isn't saying much, but his issues seemed to be more about having some rules established, so he could prepare one way or the other.

Coaches like Urban Meyer will never coach in the NIL/portal era because Urban never believed he had to be accountable to the players. That's a big reason why he failed so dramatically in the pro game, he didn't understand a world where he had to be accountable to his team.

But at the end of the day the coaches are panicking because they have lost control, but many of them (looking at you Dabo) are making so much that it's easier to whine about it and hope something changes than leave on principle.

 

[qtlaw]

I love it because the players who are the dominant reason why so much $$ is generated is getting more than "a free education!!"

 

[Della9250]

I know I'm probably living in a fantasy world but I'd like to know how much each kid is getting and what they are actually doing for said money.

And again I know it's fantasyland and it's supposed to be illegal but the payments to kids before they step on campus --either recruits of campus -- is obviously happening and it's obvious some schools are doing it and others aren't. I don't care if it's going to be allowed but again I want to know how much Texas and Ohio State are paying to raid Alabama's roster right now.

 

[Scout]

I know I'm probably living in a fantasy world but I'd like to know how much each kid is getting and what they are actually doing for said money.

And again I know it's fantasyland and it's supposed to be illegal but the payments to kids before they step on campus --either recruits of campus -- is obviously happening and it's obvious some schools are doing it and others aren't. I don't care if it's going to be allowed but again I want to know how much Texas and Ohio State are paying to raid Alabama's roster right now.

About the same as what Alabama is paying to raid theirs.

 

[Della9250]

About the same as what Alabama is paying to raid theirs.

And that's fine by me. I just don't like the secrecy around it.

 

[Alma]

Here's what I want changed with NIL: Make it to where the schools can openly pay players from the regular funding sources instead of having a parallel universe of "collectives" and treating the artificial barrier between the pots of money as sacrosanct.

The Nashville Predators make money from me when I buy a game ticket, a burger from the concession stand and maybe something from the gift shop. And indirectly they make money when I watch on TV, which contributes to the ratings that let them make money from broadcast rights.

From that money, they run the whole team, including payroll expenses. They don't come back around with a separate email saying "Whoops! That other money you spent only covers coaching and arena expenses. We need you to add another monthly subscription to afford a better defenseman."

This is what almost all coaches and athletic directors - at this point, when it's clear it's not going away - fundamentally prefer too.

When a freshman Alabama player goes up to Nick Saban and says, "coach, I can get X more dollars at a school whose name I won't tell you," Saban's recourse is to triangulate with the collective "owner" and the kid. This is a salary, not NIL. It should be administered as such.

Real NIL is Caleb williams in the Dr Pepper commercial. Dr Pepper wanted Williams' name image and likeness and paid for it. Dr. Pepper was not part of a third party relationship with USC.

 

[Justin_Rice]

Travel football coaches are using "NIL" in place of, "I will pay you money from my pocket if you will come and play for my team instead."

It's super great to see. ...