Selection Sunday thread

[jagtrader]

Probably because Florida is the defending national champion and, with this starting five, has won 12 consecutive conference and NCAA tourney games.

So KU beating the Gators this season doesn't carry as much weight as what the Gators did one year ago?

No, it doesn't.

 

[Ellis Redding]

This year's biggest snub of either tournament:

AKRON

26 wins, lost their conference tournament final on a fluke 3-pointer at the "buzzer", and yet they didn't even get an NIT bid.

Who did they beat? 14th-seed ORU and 17th-seed Niagara and went 1-2 against Miami of Ohio. They had an RPI of 67 and a SOS of 178th and it was at 295 before they got into MAC play.

Resume's just as good as Nevada's, if not better.

Nevada/Akron

Record: 27-4 (with two losses to Utah State as only to non-NCAA teams)/25-7 (losses to Arkansas-Little Rock, Illinois-Chicago, Ohio, Toledo)

RPI — 23/67

Conference RPI — 9/14

SOS — 119/178

OOC SOS — 133/295

Wins over tourney teams — Gonzaga, New Mexico State/ORU, Niagara and Miami

RPI is not a valid stat this year, as the brackets indicate. Nevada played precisely no one and couldn't even win its weak conference. Akron lost on a fluke 3.

 

[spnited]

Having been away from the board for near;ly 2 days, I have come to the following conclusion:

There is no team in the Country who got forked worse than Syracuse.

The last 4 in, based on seeding of at-large teams, were Stanford, ODU, Illinois and Arkansas. The 'Cuse is better than any of those teams.

How does a team with a 65 RPI, 18 wins, 5th in the Pac-10 get in ahead of a team that was 5th in the Big East, RPI 50, 23 forking wins?

How does a team that was 7-9 in the SE-forking-C ... couldn't even win a title in a divison in which no team played better than .500... get in a head of team that went 10-6 in the Big East, won 6 of its last 8 and blasted No. 2-seed G'town just two weeks ago?

Just forking unbelievable!

 

[Lester Bangs]

This year's biggest snub of either tournament:

AKRON

26 wins, lost their conference tournament final on a fluke 3-pointer at the "buzzer", and yet they didn't even get an NIT bid.

Who did they beat? 14th-seed ORU and 17th-seed Niagara and went 1-2 against Miami of Ohio. They had an RPI of 67 and a SOS of 178th and it was at 295 before they got into MAC play.

Resume's just as good as Nevada's, if not better.

Nevada/Akron

Record: 27-4 (with two losses to Utah State as only to non-NCAA teams)/25-7 (losses to Arkansas-Little Rock, Illinois-Chicago, Ohio, Toledo)

RPI ? 23/67

Conference RPI ? 9/14

SOS ? 119/178

OOC SOS ? 133/295

Wins over tourney teams ? Gonzaga, New Mexico State/ORU, Niagara and Miami

RPI is not a valid stat this year, as the brackets indicate. Nevada played precisely no one and couldn't even win its weak conference. Akron lost on a fluke 3.

If you say so ...

RPI is as valid this year as any. It is and it isn't, but when you start measuring teams, it helps. Nevada played nobody ... but still played a tougher sked than Akron. Nevada lost its weak conference ... and Akron lost its weaker conference.

If you'd rather ignore the facts, that's cool ... just don't act like Akron got screwed. If they got screwed, it was by the MAC time keepers and themselves for, you know, doing things like losing to Arkansas-Little Rock and not winning their conference tourney.

 

[Bubbler]

Having been away from the board for near;ly 2 days, I have come to the following conclusion:

There is no team in the Country who got forked worse than Syracuse.

Seven of their 10 Big East wins were against the bottom eight in a 16-team conference. They have no nonconference wins of consequence.

The Big East forked them with the unbalanced schedule and they forked themselves by not playing anybody.

 

[BYH]

I can understand Akron not getting into the NCAAs...not necessarily fair, but understandable.

But they lost seven games by TWENTY-ONE POINTS!!!! How the fork do you come that close to an unbeaten season, win 26 games in a solid mid-major and not make the NIT?

That's the biggest fork-up of the postseason right there.

 

[John]

I can understand Akron not getting into the NCAAs...not necessarily fair, but understandable.

But they lost seven games by TWENTY-ONE POINTS!!!! How the fork do you come that close to an unbeaten season, win 26 games in a solid mid-major and not make the NIT?

That's the biggest fork-up of the postseason right there.

Maybe the program is being punished for having such a shirtty nickname.

 

[Hammer Pants]

Gotta be honest ... I didn't know a Zip was a kangaroo.

 

[John]

Gotta be honest ... I didn't know a Zip was a kangaroo.

I thought it was a tribute to those shirtty sneakers from the 80s.

 

[Oz]

Probably because Florida is the defending national champion and, with this starting five, has won 12 consecutive conference and NCAA tourney games.

So KU beating the Gators this season doesn't carry as much weight as what the Gators did one year ago?

No, it doesn't.

So why even play the games? Seriously.

 

[Bullrog]

If you say so ...

RPI is as valid this year as any. It is and it isn't, but when you start measuring teams, it helps. Nevada played nobody ... but still played a tougher sked than Akron. Nevada lost its weak conference ... and Akron lost its weaker conference.

If you'd rather ignore the facts, that's cool ... just don't act like Akron got screwed. If they got screwed, it was by the MAC time keepers and themselves for, you know, doing things like losing to Arkansas-Little Rock and not winning their conference tourney.

Just saw this little nugget:
Dec. 22, Nevada beat Akron 73-71 at Akron. The Zips had a shot to tie at the end but missed it.

And Nevada didn't win their conference tournament either.
But I guess they're in because they are going to have a first- or second-team All-American, plus the fact that they were tabbed as one of the non-majors to watch early on so they've been ranked all season.

 

[Johnny Rockets]

Uhh...Hofstra had a legitimate gripe last year. Beating George Mason twice in 11 days.

OK no more. I promise.

Who did Hofstra play and/or beat out of conference last year?