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The Soccer Thread (Version 7.0)

Uncle.Ruckus said:
Bubbler said:
Uncle.Ruckus said:
His previous FA incident was verbal. He has no history of violence in English football. I would have been fine with 6-8 matches. Ten is unduly punitive.

Boy, that is really parsing the issue. He bit a player when he was at Ajax.

Past history. Suspension seems right to me.

Again: Different country.

If he gets a red card for a handball, does his World Cup mishap add to the punishment? No, and it shouldn't.

Handball's not violent conduct. If he got sent off for handball in three straight games, he'd get a one-match ban for the first, a two-match ban for the second (one for the handball, one for second red card in a season) and a three-match ban for the third (I think -- not sure if a third red card is an extra two games or if it's more).

Here he would have started with three games and the FA has the latitude to add on whatever it feels is deserved.
 
Inky_Wretch said:
An all-German Champions League final looms. BR up thanks to four goals by Lewandowski.

A welcome development. I'm almost as surprised by the scorelines as I am that Mourinho accepted defeat so gracefully instead of crying conspiracy over refereeing decisions. It is the Real Madrid way.
 
Columbus Crew Stadium scoreboard caught on fire before the game tonight. I do believe that's the original from '99. Might work out in the club's favor as they've wanted to replace it for the last few years.
 
I was doing chores this morning and had QPR-Reading on in the background. It may have set back soccer by 30 years.
 
Deal in place for a new MLS team in NYC:

The Russian entrepreneur Mikhail D. Prokhorov owns the Nets basketball team. Red Bull, the Austrian-based energy drink company, owns the Red Bulls soccer team. Now a member of the royal family of Abu Dhabi is poised to become the latest foreign owner of a New York-area professional sports franchise.

Sheik Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, a member of the Abu Dhabi royal family, whose private investment group owns Manchester City in England's Premier League, has entered final negotiations to purchase a franchise of Major League Soccer to be situated in Queens, according to two people with knowledge of the negotiations.

The prospective owners are willing to pay a $100 million expansion fee for the league's 20th team, which could be called New York City F.C. and begin play in 2016, the two people said. That would more than double the expansion fee of $40 million paid by the Montreal team that entered M.L.S. in 2012.

After months of public hearings, applications and discussions, a deal for a privately financed $340 million stadium in Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, which would hold 25,000 spectators and could be expanded to 35,000, could be completed in several weeks, according to several people with knowledge of the deal.

The league wants to make the announcement before May 25, when Manchester City is scheduled to play an exhibition at Yankee Stadium against its English rival Chelsea, the two people familiar with the negotiations said.

Neither Don Garber, the commissioner of M.L.S., nor Sheik Mansour could be reached for comment Sunday. Last week, Garber told reporters he hoped to make an announcement about the expansion team in New York in four to six weeks. In addition, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg told reporters last week, "Hopefully, we're getting close to announcing a new soccer stadium here in Flushing Meadow Park."

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Great if they spend the money, but it is hard to see the motivation. There is a salary cap (DPs excluded) and while they probably will draw better than RBNY given the location and the transportation options, I can't see them ever turning a profit. Red Bull seems OK with losing money in exchange for some branding recognition, but I don't see why Sheik Mansour would want the team.
 
Webster said:
Great if they spend the money, but it is hard to see the motivation. There is a salary cap (DPs excluded) and while they probably will draw better than RBNY given the location and the transportation options, I can't see them ever turning a profit. Red Bull seems OK with losing money in exchange for some branding recognition, but I don't see why Sheik Mansour would want the team.

Any chance he buys the Cosmos name, and tries to turn them into a global brand/team?
 
Webster said:
Great if they spend the money, but it is hard to see the motivation. There is a salary cap (DPs excluded) and while they probably will draw better than RBNY given the location and the transportation options, I can't see them ever turning a profit. Red Bull seems OK with losing money in exchange for some branding recognition, but I don't see why Sheik Mansour would want the team.

How does Red Bull lose money? The get an NYC rival which will help ticket sales and attention. My guess is that if both teams are fairly successful, they would both sell a lot of merchandise.
 
Villa up 5-1 on Sunderland at about 80 minutes, Benteke with a hat trick. That gives Villa 37 points, five up on Wigan (and a better goal differential) to get them closer to avoiding the drop. Big, big win, Lambert has them playing well the past month or so. Looks like no miracle finish for Wigan this year; that late draw with Spurs on Saturday was a killer.
 
Gold said:
Webster said:
Great if they spend the money, but it is hard to see the motivation. There is a salary cap (DPs excluded) and while they probably will draw better than RBNY given the location and the transportation options, I can't see them ever turning a profit. Red Bull seems OK with losing money in exchange for some branding recognition, but I don't see why Sheik Mansour would want the team.

How does Red Bull lose money? The get an NYC rival which will help ticket sales and attention. My guess is that if both teams are fairly successful, they would both sell a lot of merchandise.

They built a $200mm or more arena, draw poorly and no one watches on TV. Between Henry, Rafa and Cahill, they have some of the most expensive contracts in the legaue. I can't them making any profits.
 
Gold said:
Webster said:
Great if they spend the money, but it is hard to see the motivation. There is a salary cap (DPs excluded) and while they probably will draw better than RBNY given the location and the transportation options, I can't see them ever turning a profit. Red Bull seems OK with losing money in exchange for some branding recognition, but I don't see why Sheik Mansour would want the team.

How does Red Bull lose money? The get an NYC rival which will help ticket sales and attention. My guess is that if both teams are fairly successful, they would both sell a lot of merchandise.

He's not saying a new team will cost RBNY money. He's saying they're losing money already.
 

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