Tom vs. Patrick -- Super Bowl LV thread

[sgreenwell]

The Super Bowl is typically a lousy game that doesn't live up to the hype. The experts seemed to forget this. In the pregame analysis, every one of them predicted it would be 35-31, 38-35, 31-28. A close, exciting game. The best one was probably Romo saying that neither quarterback would let his team fall too far behind.

Recent Super Bowls have been pretty competitive, though - I'm assuming because there's more player movement now, vs. X years ago and especially pre-free agency.

 

[bigpern23]

Eight of the Chiefs last 10 games before the Super Bowl were one-score games. The only two were when they sat everyone and last to the Chargers in the season finale and the AFC championship game. Those one-score games barely wins against the Panthers, Broncos and Falcons.

Sometimes it's hard to argue week to week and it is a sign of a good team winning close games, but these weren't the barn burners everyone thought they were. They were ripe in the right situation and the Bucs figured it out.

Missing their two starting tackles, and running the offense as if they weren't, was easily the biggest reason they played like dogshirt.

 

[DanielSimpsonDay]

If Reid doesn't arrogantly and inexplicably call two timeouts, those penalties either never happen or are not a factor.

That was some ye olde tyme Andy Reid clock management.

 

[Roscablo]

Missing their two starting tackles, and running the offense as if they weren't, was easily the biggest reason they played like dogshirt.

Sure, but it's not like they were blowing the barn doors off people for the last half of the season. Sometimes play like that catches up with you.

 

[heyabbott]

In Brady's 1st Super Bowl win he was teammates with Lee Johnson who was drafted in 1985. Brady played with a guy who is now 59 years old.

 

[poindexter]

 

[bigpern23]

Sure, but it's not like they were blowing the barn doors off people for the last half of the season. Sometimes play like that catches up with you.

Sometimes it does, but I don't believe that's the case here. Mahomes was missing his two starting tackles and running for his life. There wasn't any systemic issue that caught up to them. Two starters were injured and the two tackles who played weren't good enough to handle JPP and Barrett. That was the difference.

 

[heyabbott]

Sometimes it does, but I don't believe that's the case here. Mahomes was missing his two starting tackles and running for his life. There wasn't any systemic issue that caught up to them. Two starters were injured and the two tackles who played weren't good enough to handle JPP and Barrett. That was the difference.

It seems obvious now. But the Chiefs were 3 point favorites. Everyone knew who their starting tackles were before the game.

Brady was the underdog in his first and last Super Bowl win. Any in between?

 

[qtlaw]

Sometimes it does, but I don't believe that's the case here. Mahomes was missing his two starting tackles and running for his life. There wasn't any systemic issue that caught up to them. Two starters were injured and the two tackles who played weren't good enough to handle JPP and Barrett. That was the difference.

To follow up on this, I give the Bucs DL huge credit because they were so disciplined in their rush lanes, early on Mahomes broke containment but as the game wore on, there was huge pressure on the edge but the DL was collapsing the entire pocket so that he had no where to go except running around backwards 20-30 yds (damn but he was pretty close to making some huge plays on those).

 

[Starman]

To follow up on this, I give the Bucs DL huge credit because they were so disciplined in their rush lanes, early on Mahomes broke containment but as the game wore on, there was huge pressure on the edge but the DL was collapsing the entire pocket so that he had no where to go except running around backwards 20-30 yds (damn but he was pretty close to making some huge plays on those).

And he was pretty close to getting into situations like 3rd-and-70 on some of 'em too.

 

[sgreenwell]

To follow up on this, I give the Bucs DL huge credit because they were so disciplined in their rush lanes, early on Mahomes broke containment but as the game wore on, there was huge pressure on the edge but the DL was collapsing the entire pocket so that he had no where to go except running around backwards 20-30 yds (damn but he was pretty close to making some huge plays on those).

It's weird to say, but yeah, I was also oddly impressed by Mahomes' incompletions, as Daniel Simpson Day said. A conventional QB would have had his brain turned to mush by the Bucs line that game.

 

[bigpern23]

To follow up on this, I give the Bucs DL huge credit because they were so disciplined in their rush lanes, early on Mahomes broke containment but as the game wore on, there was huge pressure on the edge but the DL was collapsing the entire pocket so that he had no where to go except running around backwards 20-30 yds (damn but he was pretty close to making some huge plays on those).

Mahomes really did everything he could have. No one else on the roster stepped up and made a play. They didn't win the ball on any close plays. That throw late in the game as he was falling to the ground was incredible.