Ukraine Always Get What You Want

[TigerVols]

… but with Putin looking to roll into the country any minute now, he'll get what he needs.

Thought maybe the coming disaster would be worth its own thread, especially now that OSINT Twitter is full of reports Russia is pulling its diplos from in county.

 

[Mngwa]

I always thought World War 3 would start in the Middle East. It looks like it's going back to its old stomping grounds, Europe.

 

[Songbird]

The subtextual stuff is pretty interesting to think about.

Someone upthread said the invasion would be a fait accompli with Trump in office right now.

Team Biden is taking this all the way in the other direction but so is Putin but so is Biden but so is Putin.

This Biden staredown vis-a-vis Trump's compliance to Putin is pretty phenomenal.

 

[maumann]

The safe money was on India-Pakistan or Israel-Random Moslem State. But Russia-Ukraine? I didn't have that on the Global Thermonuclear War bingo card.

And yeah, Biden is either serious or a very good bluffer. With COVID, inflation and wackadoodle Republicans, getting involved in a land war near Asia is only slightly moronic than going up against a Sicilian with death on the line. Ask Plato, Aristotle and Socrates!

 

[garrow]

 

[Azrael]

слава україні !

 

[Songbird]

The subtextual stuff is pretty interesting to think about.

Someone upthread said the invasion would be a fait accompli with Trump in office right now.

Team Biden is taking this all the way in the other direction but so is Putin but so is Biden but so is Putin.

This Biden staredown vis-a-vis Trump's compliance to Putin is pretty phenomenal.

I'm putting this here because.

https://pagesix.com/2022/02/12/tobey-maguire-couldnt-land-a-girl-during-night-out-with-leo-dicaprio

Old pals Leonardo DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire were spotted partying together in the VIP section of nightclub MainRō restaurant and supper club in Hollywood on Thursday night.

"Tobey and Leo came to the club together for a boys' night out," a source tells Page Six. "It was very clear that Tobey was on the prowl and Leo was his wingman. Leo introduced Tobey to three different blondes."

But it seems that even starring in the latest "Spider-Man" installment doesn't attract the ladies.

"Even with Leo's help, Tobey couldn't land a girl," the source continued. "None of them seemed interested when introduced."

The duo arrived at 10.30 p.m. but called defeat less than two hours later, leaving, "because it was clear they were having no luck."

 

[Regan MacNeil]

That's because anyone who's seen Molly's Game knows how big a piece of ship Tobey Maguire is.

 

[Neutral Corner]

Russia is saying that they fear a Ukrainian attack on Donbas. Like they are dumb enough to provide Russia with an excuse to invade when they can't do much to stop it.

Ukraine isn't putting a hundred thousand troops on Russia's border, and NATO isn't either.

I really hope that Putin isn't misreading this. I don't think that he can roll the tanks in without this blowing up in a big way.

 

[Neutral Corner]

Somewhat a /crossthread, but applicable.

At Olympics and beyond, getting away with it is Russia's way

 

[Spartan Squad]

Russia is saying that they fear a Ukrainian attack on Donbas. Like they are dumb enough to provide Russia with an excuse to invade when they can't do much to stop it.

Ukraine isn't putting a hundred thousand troops on Russia's border, and NATO isn't either.

I really hope that Putin isn't misreading this. I don't think that he can roll the tanks in without this blowing up in a big way.

He's counting on a few things that will likely keep this from blowing up

1. It always comes back to the Soviet nukes. He knows the West is going to treat him with kid gloves because of those nukes. Otherwise there might if the US and the NATO allies will make his life miserable and despite putting up a strong effort, will eventually lose.
   
2. Poland and Germany need Russian energy. A long conflict screws those civilians and their governments.
   
3. A fractured US may not have the will to fight especially after Afghanistan.

 

[lakefront]