2024-25 College Basketball Thread

[Roscablo]

I am not sure what you are looking for. College basketball is a billion dollar plus industry. Do you not think the players should be paid?

No, give them money. But it goes deeper than that. With the loose portal and everything else, there aren't sentiments like Lake's anymore because players transfer three times.

In Queen's case he's going to the NBA so even better for him, but I think most of us as "college" fans wouldn't mind seeing players develop something at one place, and I'll take the sentiment of a player who gave his all for that one place and that as much as anything broke his heart as one who got a lot of money of money to make a shot and won't be there next week. I think most of us would.

CSU has three sophomores and a freshman who played huge roles on this team (and another sophomore who plugged big holes). If all of them are there next year I would almost bet CSU would be a top 25 preseason team. How likely, even if Medved stays, do you think that happens?

This is probably a one-off year in terms of how the tournament went in that no mid-majors and no 11s or lower made the Sweet 16, but everyone is complaining about it and it certainly is in part to NIL and the transfer portal. Smaller schools are just feeders for money schools now.

So yeah, give me the player who poured his heart out for one place his whole career. Because it doesn't happen these days. He also hopefully got a little bit of money to stick around.

 

[tapintoamerica]

The teams should have to stay at midcourt during reviews. It's not supposed to be a free time out. But that's what it has turned into.

That's so easily done. Apply the same rule to the 30-second or 60-second period during which disqualified players are replaced.

 

[brn623cl]

Enough of the pants and pullover please.
You're not a coach at a Saturday morning town team game.
Wooden is rolling over in his grave.

Let's not forget in 2010 a Final Four coach was ahead of the casual dressed coach trend

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[tapintoamerica]

I am not sure what you are looking for. College basketball is a billion dollar plus industry. Do you not think the players should be paid?

Pay the players. I have given in on this. The money is so obscene that it's better spent on those who need it. If you're going to make these people fly across the country three or more times every season to chase the TV bucks, let them have some of it. But they've got to find a better way to manage some aspects of this insane new world.
1) One transfer free of punitive time-delay restrictions. But if you transfer a second time before graduating, you've got to sit out a year. Schools can't incentivize that much transferring -- especially between schools of different sizes. Excessive transferring often means people are eligible to play but have no chance to graduate. That also constitutes exploitation.
2) Collectively bargain the thing so schools have some degree of cost certainty. In contracts, make sure there's protection for the players and in support of principles that strongly disincentivize coach misconduct or mistreatment. If, for example, a coach's Neanderthal approaches to "coaching" include demeaning actions or comments on a frequent basis, the player gets out of any remaining obligation without having to pay a buyout.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

Let's not forget in 2010 a Final Four coach was ahead of the casual dressed coach trend

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Even when he worked, he was sitting on a barstool.

 

[BTExpress]

Going strictly by tournament seeding, seeds 1-4 are "expected" to make the Sweet 16.

The SEC had two teams (10 Arkansas, 6 Ole Miss) overperform and one team (4 Texas A&M) underperform.

Thus, it seems as though the SEC is underrated. Sigh.

 

[Retired_Scribe]

Pure honesty... from the mouths of babes.

 

[DanOregon]

I'm all for the players getting paid. But honestly, with college football and hoops there used to be a sense of "local pride" with college sports. It wasn't just the "local U" but the players that went there tended to be from the region. Even people who didn't go to the school could take pride that the roster was made up somewhat of "local kids." Whether we are talking about Miami Fla., Iowa, Texas, Penn State, now the school names mean virtually nothing. Rivalries mean nothing.

 

[poindexter]

I am sorry for all of your lost memories of Good Ol' State U, but the cat is way out of the bag, and there is no turning back. Once big money came into play, all of the innocence that you guys remember so fondly, is wiped out. This is the new reality, gonna have to deal with it.

 

[Chet Lemon]

I think the powers that be underestimate how the elegance of the 64-team bracket contributes to interest (and office pools) from casuals that never tune in before March. Even now the First Four games are ignored for bracket challenge contests. If Dayton becomes two full days of play-in games, the ubiquitous posters you see in restaurants, bars, gas stations and other random businesses don't really work any more. And people go from having three days to fill out a bracket to one.

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I am sorry for all of your lost memories of Good Ol' State U, but the cat is way out of the bag, and there is no turning back. Once big money came into play, all of the innocence that you guys remember so fondly, is wiped out. This is the new reality, gonna have to deal with it.

For me, it has nothing to do with the innocence of a bygone era, and everything to do with whether this model is viable in the long-term as a spectator sport. If not, too bad, so sad, I suppose. But it's going to cannibalize itself this way. I'm a big college basketball fan, but it can be difficult to basically learn all new rosters, every single season.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

I listened to a podcast interview with Vernon Maxwell on Friday where he admitted he was straight up getting paid when he was at Florida and that his rookie contract with San Antonio was actually a slight pay cut from what they were handing him under the table. So, this is nothing new; it's just on the up and up now.

 

[Roscablo]

I am sorry for all of your lost memories of Good Ol' State U, but the cat is way out of the bag, and there is no turning back. Once big money came into play, all of the innocence that you guys remember so fondly, is wiped out. This is the new reality, gonna have to deal with it.

It's not that there is big money, it's that there are no rules. It's worse than the wild, wild west. Yeah, whole new rosters for everyone every year is awesome. So good for the sport. I'm mean it's what every pro league does. Oh, it's not.