BCS leagues expanding - yeah?

[BitterYoungMatador2]

I'm at least a little curious as to why Connecticut isn't part of this. Is the ACC doing this because it thinks it's about to lose a school or two? Is UConn's recent trouble with the NCAA why the ACC apparently isn't interested? Are our "superconferences" going to be 14-team deals and not 16?

Actually, I've wondered the same things lately. Won't surprise me at all, if at least a couple of the "megas" end up at 14. B1G, in particular. Big enough to say relevant (12 looks pretty meager, compared to 16), but having to spread the wealth a bit less.

I still believe that the strategy for the B1G is to sit back & let things unfold, at this point. The "gold ring" for them continues to be located in South Bend & the (what now looks to be) unraveling of the Big East only helps with that. Add in ND and (fill in the blank), stay at 14. Wouldn't shock me, in this scenario, to see U Conn land here. Expand the footprint east a bit.

because uconn sued the acc in 2003 when miami and vt left.

so did Pitt and Syracuse. In fact, Pitt's school president was one of the lead attorneys in that lawsuit.

 

[playthrough]

Losing the Big East tourney in the Garden would be a shame.

 

[Big Circus]

It's not expansion-related, but whoever it was that was trying to tell me that UNC doesn't get favorable treatment from the zebras needs to turn on the UVa-UNC game. It's comical how one-sided the officiating is.

 

[Dr. J]

I'm at least a little curious as to why Connecticut isn't part of this. Is the ACC doing this because it thinks it's about to lose a school or two? Is UConn's recent trouble with the NCAA why the ACC apparently isn't interested? Are our "superconferences" going to be 14-team deals and not 16?

Actually, I've wondered the same things lately. Won't surprise me at all, if at least a couple of the "megas" end up at 14. B1G, in particular. Big enough to say relevant (12 looks pretty meager, compared to 16), but having to spread the wealth a bit less.

I still believe that the strategy for the B1G is to sit back & let things unfold, at this point. The "gold ring" for them continues to be located in South Bend & the (what now looks to be) unraveling of the Big East only helps with that. Add in ND and (fill in the blank), stay at 14. Wouldn't shock me, in this scenario, to see U Conn land here. Expand the footprint east a bit.

because uconn sued the acc in 2003 when miami and vt left.

so did Pitt and Syracuse. In fact, Pitt's school president was one of the lead attorneys in that lawsuit.

syracuse was not part of the lawsuit. uconn a.d. was the ringleader of the other schools who sued

 

[Stitch]

From this Mizzou fanboi's POV, the best thing about the ACC news today is that the league jacked up its fine for leaving the conference from $12 to $20 million -- making it much less likely VaTech could fill the SEC's 14th slot.

Didn't affect that a bit, actually. It's hard for a likelihood to go less than zero.

You sure love to deal in absolutes. Again, how can you be so sure Virginia Tech wouldn't consider the SEC? I'm not saying they are leaving or even want to leave, but every single school in the country has to keep its options open right now and just because being in the ACC was the dream of Hokies in the 90s doesn't mean it's the best option today.

Because that's been their position for decades and the people in power haven't changed their stance one bit. The Hokies have admitted that if any schools leave, they would re-assess their stance, but as long as the ACC exists at 12 or more teams, they were going to remain in the ACC.

With most schools, I agree that you can't deal in absolutes. With Virginia Tech, you can. As long as the ACC doesn't lose any teams, and it looks like it certainly won't at this point, the Hokies' interest in the SEC is zilch.

That's likely the way it will play out, but it's a bit naive to take what university administrators say publicly at face value.

I trust university presidents. What type of journalist are you if you don't trust those in power.

 

[wicked]

BC also joined in the suit to block Miami and Va Tech from leaving, then dropped out. It isn't without precedent.

I don't think UConn is viewed as the type of institution, academically, that the ACC wants. Whether that's fair or not is another discussion all together.

 

[Cosmo]

ACC has scheduled a media teleconference for 9:30 a.m. tomorrow (or today, now, I suppose).

 

[NightHawk112005]

BC also joined in the suit to block Miami and Va Tech from leaving, then dropped out. It isn't without precedent.

I don't think UConn is viewed as the type of institution, academically, that the ACC wants. Whether that's fair or not is another discussion all together.

Not true. Connecticut is ranked No. 58 in U.S. News' latest rankings. Academically, Connecticut would be a fine addition.

I think the ACC's next move should be to either invite Rutgers and Connecticut, or to invite Texas and Baylor. Yes, I said Baylor, not Texas Tech. Other than football and possibly Texas politics, I can't think of a single reason why Texas Tech merits an invitation over Baylor.

As a whole, Baylor's athletics are stronger than Texas Tech. It's a better academic institution (by a wide margin) than Texas Tech, and it's close enough to Austin that a visiting school in a non-revenue sport could bus between Waco and Austin on one trip to save money. Bottom line, Baylor fits the profile of an ACC school, Texas Tech does not. If the ACC really wants the Longhorns, it should take the Bears too. If not, grab the Huskies and the Scarlet Knights.

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

The Florida State president confirmed to ESPN that Syracuse and Pitt are applying for ACC membership. Krzyzewski told Andy Katz how exciting it is.

 

[NightHawk112005]

And USA Today reports that the presidents have already voted on Pitt and Syracuse. Looks like a done deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2011-09-17/acc-approves-syracuse-pittsburgh-big-east/50448806/1

 

[Jake_Taylor]

BC also joined in the suit to block Miami and Va Tech from leaving, then dropped out. It isn't without precedent.

I don't think UConn is viewed as the type of institution, academically, that the ACC wants. Whether that's fair or not is another discussion all together.

Not true. Connecticut is ranked No. 58 in U.S. News' latest rankings. Academically, Connecticut would be a fine addition.

I think the ACC's next move should be to either invite Rutgers and Connecticut, or to invite Texas and Baylor. Yes, I said Baylor, not Texas Tech. Other than football and possibly Texas politics, I can't think of a single reason why Texas Tech merits an invitation over Baylor.

As a whole, Baylor's athletics are stronger than Texas Tech. It's a better academic institution (by a wide margin) than Texas Tech, and it's close enough to Austin that a visiting school in a non-revenue sport could bus between Waco and Austin on one trip to save money. Bottom line, Baylor fits the profile of an ACC school, Texas Tech does not. If the ACC really wants the Longhorns, it should take the Bears too. If not, grab the Huskies and the Scarlet Knights.

And since football has nothing to do with all this conference shuffling...


Actually, I agree with most of you point. I don't think it's going to matter for the poor Bears though.

 

[DanOregon]

One of these schools is going to end up suing themselves and losing.