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College Football Week 7: Give Penn State a break (or at least a bye)

Steak Snabler said:
Gene Chizik is dead man walking now that Pat Dye has lost confidence in him:

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/10/pat_dye_says_one_of_auburn_qbs.html

Taking what Pat Dye says at face value, I read the opposite. From the article:

Despite Auburn's struggles, Dye reiterated his support for current Tigers head coach Gene Chizik.

"My confidence in Gene and that coaching staff has not changed. I still believe in them. I believe in them because of the kind of men they are and where they came from and what their history is. You can't have any better background. It's not what we're doing offensively and it's not the playcalling."

That part did make me giggle, however, since I was in Iowa when Chizik lit the world on fire with his 2-10 season in Ames.
 
Pat Dye doesn't say a damn thing in an interview unless it is what the money people at Auburn want him to say. And after declaring the other week he'd rather have Chizik than "10 Nick Sabans," walking it back is a multi-step process.
 
Bama and Florida aren't going to fall far if they lose. Figure ND, Oregon and KState are battling for the "non-SEC" slot in the BCS. And we'll probably know within a few weeks whether they can run the table or not.
I think a one-loss USC jumps up and takes the "other" slot if they don't.
 
A one-loss Alabama team won't have the strength of schedule to get back in the chase. Non-conference is a borderline Top 25 Michigan, two Sun Belt teams and a 1-AA. If they miss Atlanta, then they won't have played any of the top 3 SEC East teams. LSU would be a great win, MSU and Pretend Army School would be good. Otherwise, you're looking at a big bag of nothing.
 
dixiehack said:
A one-loss Alabama team won't have the strength of schedule to get back in the chase. Non-conference is a borderline Top 25 Michigan, two Sun Belt teams and a 1-AA. If they miss Atlanta, then they won't have played any of the top 3 SEC East teams. LSU would be a great win, MSU and Pretend Army School would be good. Otherwise, you're looking at a big bag of nothing.

You're forgetting the time-honored tradition that the SEC wins every single computer showdown the BCS ever has. So if it's one-loss Alabama vs. one-loss everyone else, it's going to be one-loss Alabama.
 
LongTimeListener said:
dixiehack said:
A one-loss Alabama team won't have the strength of schedule to get back in the chase. Non-conference is a borderline Top 25 Michigan, two Sun Belt teams and a 1-AA. If they miss Atlanta, then they won't have played any of the top 3 SEC East teams. LSU would be a great win, MSU and Pretend Army School would be good. Otherwise, you're looking at a big bag of nothing.

You're forgetting the time-honored tradition that the SEC wins every single computer showdown the BCS ever has. So if it's one-loss Alabama vs. one-loss everyone else, it's going to be one-loss Alabama.

Last year, the computers picked Oklahoma State ahead of Alabama.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs/_/year/2011
 
Versatile said:
LongTimeListener said:
dixiehack said:
A one-loss Alabama team won't have the strength of schedule to get back in the chase. Non-conference is a borderline Top 25 Michigan, two Sun Belt teams and a 1-AA. If they miss Atlanta, then they won't have played any of the top 3 SEC East teams. LSU would be a great win, MSU and Pretend Army School would be good. Otherwise, you're looking at a big bag of nothing.

You're forgetting the time-honored tradition that the SEC wins every single computer showdown the BCS ever has. So if it's one-loss Alabama vs. one-loss everyone else, it's going to be one-loss Alabama.

Last year, the computers picked Oklahoma State ahead of Alabama.

I'm sorry. "Computer showdown" meaning throw all the data in and see who gets the BCS nod, which is determined by calculation. That is always the SEC team. Since Roy Kramer's boys rewrote the (secret) formula, they win every time.
 
Versatile said:
LongTimeListener said:
dixiehack said:
A one-loss Alabama team won't have the strength of schedule to get back in the chase. Non-conference is a borderline Top 25 Michigan, two Sun Belt teams and a 1-AA. If they miss Atlanta, then they won't have played any of the top 3 SEC East teams. LSU would be a great win, MSU and Pretend Army School would be good. Otherwise, you're looking at a big bag of nothing.

You're forgetting the time-honored tradition that the SEC wins every single computer showdown the BCS ever has. So if it's one-loss Alabama vs. one-loss everyone else, it's going to be one-loss Alabama.

Last year, the computers picked Oklahoma State ahead of Alabama.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs/_/year/2011

Also ...
  • 12-1 Oklahoma and 11-1 Texas above 12-1 Florida in 2008: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf/bcs_120708.pdf
  • 11-2 Virginia Tech above 11-2 LSU in 2007: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf/bcs_120207.pdf
  • 11-1 Michigan tied with 11-1 Florida in 2006: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf/bcs_120306.pdf
Only unbeaten SEC teams (Alabama in 2009, Auburn in 2010 and LSU in 2011) have topped the rankings.

The human element is leading to the supposed SEC bias.
 
Versatile said:
The human element is leading to the supposed SEC bias.
They've won five NCG's in a row against non-SEC teams (6 total). Those are on the field results. When they start losing big games that "bias" will fade.
 
workerB12 said:
Versatile said:
The human element is leading to the supposed SEC bias.
They've won five NCG's in a row against non-SEC teams (6 total). Those are on the field results. When they start losing big games that "bias" will fade.

Yes, please convince me that the SEC is the best football conference.
 
Steak Snabler said:
workerB12 said:
Steak Snabler said:
Gene Chizik is dead man walking now that Pat Dye has lost confidence in him:

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/10/pat_dye_says_one_of_auburn_qbs.html
I'm not enough of a college football historian to be sure I'm right, but he has to be amongst the worst coaches to ever win a National Championship.

Larry Coker's probably the only other person in the discussion, and he's 47 games over .500 for his career. Chizik is 36-34 (22-34 without Cam Newton as his QB).

Mack "don't confuse me with Watson" Brown is throwing his hat into the ring. Exaggeration of course, but my goodness, did he luck into his only title.
 
Yodel said:
Steak Snabler said:
workerB12 said:
Steak Snabler said:
Gene Chizik is dead man walking now that Pat Dye has lost confidence in him:

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/10/pat_dye_says_one_of_auburn_qbs.html
I'm not enough of a college football historian to be sure I'm right, but he has to be amongst the worst coaches to ever win a National Championship.

Larry Coker's probably the only other person in the discussion, and he's 47 games over .500 for his career. Chizik is 36-34 (22-34 without Cam Newton as his QB).

Mack "don't confuse me with Watson" Brown is throwing his hat into the ring. Exaggeration of course, but my goodness, did he luck into his only title.

That's a pretty forking bullshirt assessment. Mack Brown turned around a shirt Tulane program, then a shirt North Carolina program, then for 14 seasons in a row won at least nine games. The last nine of those seasons were 10-win seasons. He earned BCS berths four times in a six-season span. He's nowhere near the worst coach to win a title. And he didn't luck into it at all.
 

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