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Football Hall Finalists for 2011: How do you pick just 7?

YGBFKM said:
BYH said:
A Hall of Fame without Curtis Martin shouldn't even exist.

Seriously, Martin deserves to get in, at some point, and I wouldn't argue if he got in this year. But please explain how Martin is, in your view, a slam dunk. Good player for a long time who put together an amazing season late in his career, but he was the kind of back that put fear into defenses. Please, explain yourself, baseball fan. :D

Because he left Pittsburgh and became a star in NYC. DUH. :D :D :D

Seriously, b/c he was one of the best--and probably the toughest and most durable--RB in the NFL for 11 years. He had six seasons w/1600 total yards and had more than 1400 yards in each of his first 10 seasons. The six 1,600-total yard seasons and 10 1,400-total yard seasons equal the number produced by Faulk. Martin had less than 300 carries just twice in his first 10 seasons and fell below 4.0 YPC just three times.

This is in no way saying Martin should be in and Faulk shouldn't (Faulk was a true dual threat and his four 2,000-total yard seasons are, umm, four more than Martin). But Martin ended up six yards shy (in 2002) of opening his career with 10 straight 1,100-yard seasons, which would have tied him for most all-time with Barry Sanders. And he made 88 straight starts from age 26 thru his career-ending knee injury at 32 (thank you very much, Fraud Herm Edwards), which is utterly remarkable.

Among Martin's comps (at ProFootballReference.com) after 10 seasons: Tony Dorsett, Franco Harris, Lenny Moore, Walter Payton, Jim Brown. The guy is the common link in how the Jets turned from the worst franchise in football into one of its regular playoff contenders. He was tough, he was a winner, he is a Hall of Famer. So let it be stated so let it be done.
 
That's far from the worst explanation you've ever made on this site, so I'll accept it.
 
Thought I'd revive this thread since we're getting closer to the vote.

I think Faulk and Deion are slam dunks.

I hope they put at least one of the receivers in. I think they'd put Reed in over Carter, although both will get in.

Not sure if Curtis Martin will have to wait a year or two.
 
The Pro Hall is a weird deal. The hoops HOF is easy, if you are in the conversation, you are probably in. Baseball publishes the voting. The Pro Hall? It's like a Raiders coaches meeting - people go in - one guy comes out with a broken jaw - and nobody knows what happened.
 
DanOregon said:
The Pro Hall is a weird deal. The hoops HOF is easy, if you are in the conversation, you are probably in. Baseball publishes the voting. The Pro Hall? It's like a Raiders coaches meeting - people go in - one guy comes out with a broken jaw - and nobody knows what happened.

It's gotten better in recent years. Some of the grumpy old men have retired and been replaced with younger guys.
 
Della9250 said:
Here's who the voters get to haggle over:

Running backs Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis and Marshall Faulk
Cornerback Deion Sanders
Offensive tackle Willie Roaf
Receivers Tim Brown, Andre Reed and Cris Carter
Center Dermontti Dawson
Defensive ends Richard Dent, Charles Haley and Chris Doleman
Defensive tackle Cortez Kennedy
Tight end Shannon Sharpe
NFL filmmaker Ed Sabol

In order of worthiness:
Sabol
Sharpe
Sanders
Dent
Brown
Dawson
Reed
 
I'd rank them:

No brainers:
Sabol
Sanders
Faulk
Martin

Next level but definitely deserving:
Reed
Carter
Haley
Sharpe
Brown
Roaf

Wouldn't bother me if they got in:
Dent
Dawson
Doleman
Bettis

Buy a ticket:
Kennedy
 
deion will get in but it's not likely to be unanimous. it'll get out how many voters said 'nay' and those naysayers may even i.d. themselves. it's not beyond dueion to rip them a new a--hole. you see his reaction to his 'lowly' place in the 'top 100 nfl players' list last summer? child, puh-leeze. ::) ::) ::)
 
shockey said:
deion will get in but it's not likely to be unanimous. it'll get out how many voters said 'nay' and those naysayers may even i.d. themselves. it's not beyond dueion to rip them a new a--hole. you see his reaction to his 'lowly' place in the 'top 100 nfl players' list last summer? child, puh-leeze. ::) ::) ::)

Based on what I've heard, Reggie White, Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith were not unanimous.
 
I know we have baseball HOF voters on here. Any chance we have a NFL HOF voter on here?
 

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